Woodcraft pegs??? needed

[mercdude63]

Ok guys,

Maybe other riders have experienced this, but after installing much shorter handlebars, my feet are extremely uncomfortable. I rode about 250miles this weekend with the new siranth bar on my bike and i coudln't keep my feet on the shift/brake levers because it stressed my caves too much. I heard that there are woodcraft peg sets that relocated the pegs up higher and back further. I actually remember looking at some post or site that talked about woodcraft and some other alternative peg set. I can't find it now. Basically, the shifter needs to be down farther, or my leg up higher and the same for the brake. I ended up just resting my feet on the back part of the pegs and let me feet tangle b/w the shifter/brake and the pegs. Obviously that's not good for quick reaction times. Let me know what other people have done and what i can do without having to modify crap all day long. I'd rather pay a little/a lot more and get something that was designed by someoen else to bolt on than try and make something work--i don't have the tools for that.

jon

[JamesG]

As I understand your problem and the way you discribed your riding style (both feet "covering" the shift and brake levers). CFM or any rearset pegs won't help you, and would probably make things worse because they will increase the angle and distance to the shifter.

Try riding with the balls, or front part of your foot, on the peg. Only bring your foot forward and either up or down to shift or use the rear brake.
That way your foot stays at a more natural angle, and you are better positioned to shift your weight, not to mention that you won't drag your toes in a lean.

[mercdude63]

I'm not sure we are talking about the same problem. It's as if i need the more aggresive sport bike-style pegsets so my feet have more of an aggresive leave angle. It's like i constantly have to pull my foot up so i can keep my feet on the shifter/brake petals. Like i said in my other post, i need my the feet pegs to be up higher in relation to the shifter/brake. Imagine the CBR pegsets and that's basically what i need on my GS, minus the pain it takes to graft the CBR pegsets onto my bike. Doesn't woodcraft have something for this? I remember seeing a conversation/pics about the aftermarket pegs that you can get for the gs. Either woodcraft pegs or some other kind which that person considered fragile. Damn, i just can't find the thread now even after i used the search.

[rt_fz1]

I've got the Woodcrafts on my race bike, and they are far from fragile.  I've lowside on either side and the only damage was the pegs being gound down a bit.  

The other thing about them is that the shift lever is not integrated into the rear sets so you might have to have your shift lever extended.  Any local welder should be able to help you here.  

As for the position.  I'm assuming you've moved/adjusted the levers around to try and get a more comfortable  position?  You can adjust the brake lever a bit and the gear shifter can be moved up and down quit a bit.  I never sat on/riden a stock GS, so I don't have a good feel for the stock riding positon.  But, the Woodcrafts and clip-on seem to provide a pretty natural position and all the levers are in easy reach and not in the way.  Hope this helps/

Rich

[JamesG]

What rt_fz1 said.

I still don't think I understand what your problem is. You say that you are too leaned over by the bars and that the pegs are too far down and forward???
Or are you saying the relationship between the pegs and the shift and brake levers is wrong?

[pdg108]

Hum... I think i might know what he's talking about.  I have the same bars, and they just highlight a problem I've always had.

The angle between your shin and the top of your foot becomes more acute than with the old bars.  Normally it is more like a right angle, but as your leg  leans forward a bit and you keep your foot level with the ground that angle gets smaller.  On the left you can just let your toe point down under the shifter and your fine (makes a comfortable right angle), but on the right the brake gets in the way and you have to hold your toe up to keep from touching it.

I just alternate and put my toe up on the right peg, but you should be able to adjust the lever down enough to compensate.  I've just been to lazy to do it.  



I think thats what he's getting at, if not, thats what i'm getting at.

[mercdude63]

No, no... the bars aren't far enough down and away from the peg. Think what's different between a sport bike peg set and a standard IE: GS500 peg set. The standard peg set is more even/level with the bike's lines. The sport bike has your feet pointing to the ground with the shifter/brake down where your toes naturally go because of the increased (decreased??) angle. Basically: need a set to accomiadate my feet point down vs. my feet being level/parallel with the bike.  Maybe it's that i haven't adjusted the shifter/brake but i don't think there's going to be enough adjustment for what i want/need (size 11-12 shoe). I know because i used to ride a CBR... and THAT's what i need...... now anyways.

ok, so now that we're hopefully clear... anyone got any ideas? there this guy who has some custom ones for racing that use woodcraft pegs. any experience with these? they look like pretty good quality to me.

jon

[mercdude63]

I mean, i agree with the last post exactly, just not the one before. You and i are getting at the exactly same point. Do you really think there's enough adjustment to make it work? I dont' think so with the shifter. That makes me REEAAAAAL nervous when riding aggresively. I want to be able to shift down in a hurry. Also, the GS doesn't have good enough brakes to just use the front alone.... well at least i don't think so... again, coming from a CBR to the GS.

just so everyone knows, i'm not dogging the GS... i love this bike much more than i did my CBR... just differences are notable when modifying.

[chimivee]

there this guy who has some custom ones for racing that use woodcraft pegs. any experience with these? they look like pretty good quality to me.

No experiece w/ them, but I recall positive comments from those whoe have them.  Don't see why there would be any problem, since there really isn't much to them.  As someon mentioned, you might need to extend the shifter, though, which also increases the throw.

[JamesG]

Ok gotcha.
CFM and Raask make the only bolt on rear sets for the GS500 I know of. The Raask ones have the advantage of having a peg mounted shift lever and linkage so that the lever is closer and easier to get at, and you can easily set it up GP shift if you are so inclined. But they are also more expensive, fragile (because of) the peg is a folding kind so doesn't provide any protection to the frame/body.
CFMs are VERY TOUGH. I have crashed them and the FRAME bent before the peg or bracket did! They look very cool (billet AL) and are reasonably priced and easy to get (spare pegs too). The only down side to them is that the design doesn't uses a remote linkage so you either have to extend the shifter, swipe the lever, peg, and linkage off a CFM GSXR set, or deal with it and learn to take your foot off the peg to actuate the stock lever.

OH!  Forgot Greg Gabis's brackets too! His are similar to the CFMs but I think he has the remote linkage on his. Donno if he is still making them...

As a quick fix, you can rotate the shifter thru at least 45 degrees of angle.

[aplitz]

I love my cfm rearsets, but I'm going to be selling them soon (getting a new bike).  They, with the SM bars make my bike feel great.  I left the shift lever short, and found that the bike fit my big feet better.  Just my .02.

Aaron

[dgyver]

The Woodcrafts are easy to set up with a peg mounted shifter. The shift side plate has to be modified. 2 small notches need to be added to keep the peg from rotating. A dremel works just fine. You will need the rest of the stuff: shift pedal, linkage, knuckle and peg. Most of this is easily found off of ebay fairly cheap. GSXR, TL, & SV all share the same shifter parts, although the rod lengths may vary. I will need to measure the rod I am using but not sure what bike it came from.

[tdan553527]

Try this site,

http://www.1tail.com/sa/cart/category.asp?cg={EB889D75-8FA7-423E-B597-1243C0B62F8A}

[Kerry]

tdan, when a URL like the one above doesn't "take" in its entirety, surround it with [url ] and [/url] tags.

"BBCode support technician out...."  

[tdan553527]

Thanks Kerry!

The link will still take you to the site, but not the page that I had intended for it to.