...and I guess it's society's fault this happened...

[stephan]

My oh my . . . .

How quickly things turn sour!   :lol:

Some kids in my neighborhood have one of those things.  It sounds like someone's running up and down the street with a weed wacker at full throttle!

:mrgreen:

[ghettorigged]

Some kids in my neighborhood have one of those things.  It sounds like someone's running up and down the street with a weed wacker at full throttle!

:mrgreen:

Those kids better be glad they don't live in mercdude63's neighborhood!!

http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11185

[ifonline]

I agree with most in this thread, and appreciate the support for my job from many. I don't want something to be misunderstood, however, if it even was... I do feel for this kid's parents. Although everyone will die someday, no one should die "before there time," whatever that may be. I know that some will jokingly say that it was this kid's time to die, but I think everyone knows what I mean. A life lost, no matter how idiotic or tragic the circumstances, is a terrible thing.

I also can appreciate the comments from some that talk about the encounters they have had with the police and that the cops were dicks, the encounters were BS, and so on... I would like to know what really happened during the encounters, and, no offense, but those that have had those types of encounters can only offer one side of the story, and it might not be the correct version of events.

On the topic of McDonalds, you're right. I don't know the entire facts of the case. It is, however, still my opinion that blame is all too often shifted from the real blame-holder to some other party. In other words, the "it's not my fault" argument. It's unfortunate. It's stupid. And I believe it happened in this case.

Someone made a comment about being in an alley at 3am, as if that's a normal thing to be doing. If we're talking about the same type of alley, then they are accessways to the backs and sides of buildings, and not throughways for foot or vehicular traffic. So why would you need to be there at 3am? Is there really a good reason to be in an alley unless using it for loading and unloading items or something similar? Or are you hiding in that alley because you might be doing something wrong?

I have always had an "open door" policy in my patrol vehicle, if that makes sense. I would invite anyone to ride with me when they want to. If they just want to get some excitement, that's fine. If they don't think the cops do anything and want to see for themselves, that's fine too. Whatever is okay. However, I would love to take it one step further. How about this... I'll be the passenger, and you be the cop. You wear my equipment (all 25 pounds of it), you drive the car, you take the calls, you deal with the public, and you make split-second, life-altering decisions, and then tell me if we're Nazi's, or dicks, or whatever else you might think.

I feel confident that some people's eyes would open wide. All to often, public opinion is based on a singular event, and not a series of events. You have a bad experience with a cop, and all cops are bad. Mostly no one considers that I fight the things that most people are afraid of, and mostly no one realizes that I am willing to die to protect those that would so quickly spit in my face.

I appologize for going off on a rant, once again. I realize this isn't supposed to be a cop thread, per se, and I'm not at all trying to point fingers at anyone in particular. I'll see if I can give my soapbox to someone else for a while...  

Ian

[PITBULL]

Well I can say that I do have one of these pocket bikes and yes I ride it on the road on a regular basis  around my block  not very trafficy or nothing most people who see me laugh and ask me how it rides and so fourth  hell they are alot of fun.    My question is why are they not street legal   mine has headlights tail light break light front and rear blinkers  horn all im missing is mirrors and I am putting those on it.   It is a 49cc motor so by the way the law reads in GA   it should be legal when i put mirrors on it as long as it wont break 35 mph which by the way it wont not even going downhill =)    so what is the law that makes it illegal on the road   in my opion it should be classified as a moped  by the way everything reads    oh yeah i hated english so screw puncutation and spelling   sorry if its hard to read    


PITBULL

[Roadstergal]

You know, I get worried when I skip a period...    

[cernunos]

... ...er, uh...gee ...but I do love my little GS and the forum.

C.......

[Roadstergal]

Sorry, bad pun.

[nisus1]

I ride mine to work everyday...!  

[The Buddha]

See however that bike isn't highway legal, It doesn't have lights... next time timmy please put lights...
Cool.
Srinath.

[Roadstergal]

See however that bike isn't highway legal, It doesn't have lights... next time timmy please put lights...
Cool.
Srinath.

The driver isn't highway legal... he doesn't have a brain... next time, Timmy, please have a brain...

One thing I really like about my bike is that it puts me above the level of the cars.  Mmm... visibility...

[The Buddha]

That's cruel... see he does have all his gear on... a full road race spec suit with puck's etc... and he has just passed that truck too... That Timmy he's the smart one...
Cool.
Srinath.

[ifonline]

My question is why are they not street legal   mine has headlights tail light break light front and rear blinkers  horn all im missing is mirrors and I am putting those on it.   It is a 49cc motor so by the way the law reads in GA   it should be legal when i put mirrors on it as long as it wont break 35 mph which by the way it wont not even going downhill =)    so what is the law that makes it illegal on the road   in my opion it should be classified as a moped  by the way everything reads

Actually, let me see if I can answer the question that is buried in all of this free-flowing text...

From OCGA 40-1-1:

'Moped' means a motor driven cycle equipped with two or three wheels, with or without foot pedals to permit muscular propulsion, and an independent power source providing a maximum of two brake horsepower. If a combustion engine is used, the maximum piston or rotor displacement shall be 3.05 cubic inches (50 cubic centimeters) regardless of the number of chambers in such power source. The power source shall be capable of propelling the vehicle, unassisted, at a speed not to exceed 30 miles per hour (48.28 kilometers per hour) on level road surface and shall be equipped with a power drive system that functions directly or automatically only, not requiring clutching or shifting by the operator after the drive system is engaged.

So, as I read this:

1. A motor driven cycle

Is this a motorcycle or a motor driven cycle (moped)?

2. Two or three wheels

It has two - check

3. With or without foot pedals for muscular propulsion

It has no foot pedals for propulsion - check

4. Power source capable of producing no more than two brake horsepower

How many horsepower does this thing put out?

5. Maximum dispacement is 50cc

47/49 cc - check

6. Must not be capable of speeds greater than 30 mph

Depending on the model, it may go as fast as 40 mph, so how fast will yours go?

7. Must have a drive system that is either automatic or single-geared only

How many gears do these things have?

So, can you answer 1, 4, 6, and 7? This is, of course, notwithstanding any other laws requiring headlights, taillights, turn signals, brake lights, etc. I'd be interested to see if these really are street legal (with some modifications) or not.

Ian

[The Buddha]

OK one more question... If you fit a licence plate on it... will the plate drag on the ground??? and further is the wind catches the plate will the vehile with rider get lifted off... :lol:
Cool.
Srinath.

[nisus1]

The only time i had a problem with the wind...

[Roadstergal]

BTW, pocket bikes lose street legality under this requirement in WA:

From RCW 46.37.040

(2) Every head lamp upon every motor vehicle shall be located at a height measured from the center of the head lamp of not more than fifty-four inches nor less than twenty-four inches to be measured as set forth in RCW 46.37.030(2).

[The Buddha]

OK then wear one on your head... come on... think... you're the smart one Timmy...
Cool.
Srinath.