WARNING to Odds & Ends regulars

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[jake42]

pablo,

I agree. I've been around long enough that I remember why the odds and ends forum was created last winter.  People couldn't ride so they started with the OT stuff.  It was never too bad until just this past summer.  It's gotten completely out of hand, Kerry's been driven away, you're pissed, and the 'regulars' of the odds and ends forum don't seem to care, they just keep spewing their viewpoints.

[john]

Lets all just calm down.  Other than a new recipticle for a few threads things should be the same.  [/img]

[Michael]

Um... Sorry.  

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[perfdrug]

i'm at college, and i didn't bring my bike. i come to gstwin specifically for the OnE now. Sure i check the gen discussion, but i'm so out of the motorcycle mindset, that i only reply when i can find something i know an answer to (rare).

I'm not a part of this board soley to ravage information from it, then leave. It's a community. I belong to a Volkswagen community at school. We don't send people home when they start talking about the Colts or even politics. True it's never gotten to name calling and stuff, but I don't think anyone disagrees that that's stupid.

I guess i'm just having a hard time understanding why anyone would threaten the "chat" forum. I can understand the intent of the original post.  But you're alienating the off-season riders from their fellow members. I feel like staying up to date with people, but not by talking GS troubleshooting.

I'll even go so far as to say - if this forum gets shut down I'll leave. It may not seem like much of a threat, but I'm a contributing member, both through stickers and magazines, and I do think my voice counts.

[john]

I'll even go so far as to say - if this forum gets shut down I'll leave. It may not seem like much of a threat, but I'm a contributing member, both through stickers and magazines, and I do think my voice counts.

Obviously he didn't read my comment.  I'm in charge here.  I say O&E stays, as it is, except for a few posts that get out of hand.  Now if the turds really start flying we may have to resort to more extreme measures.  O&E has become a good place for OT posts the vast majority of times it's fine.  So We are trying to take care of it by not deleting threads, just moving them to another forum where they can be argued.

Lets not get our knickers all bunched up.  Pablo is right, he's upset with the tone in some threads, he has every right to be.  He is blowing off some steam, and trust me, he said nothing to me privately that he didn't say here -he laid out his opinions quite clearly.  He liked the site when it was a little smaller and had virtually no fighting, he's afraid of losing touch with that and I totally understand.  So I do support Pablo, but I don't support shutting down O&E because of a few, A FEW posts that got a little out of hand.

Allow me to recap for those who just arrived:

-O&E is here to stay
-No further actions will be taken other than what I outlined already (which are minimal).
-Nobody has been banned, nor will be unless things get out of hand beyond the current petty bickering.
-We view members who post here as valuable, even the real bickering ones .
-this decision to do something was instigated BY ME.  I'm not here that often, but I keep tabs and I didn't like what I was seeing.

So Pablo isn't the reason or the cause of this attention to posts here.  It's me.  I made changes that inflicted minimal changes and no deletion of threads.  I'm doing what I think is right for the future well being of this board and site.  Personally, I was going to handle things with PM's, but I think pablo was right in letting everybody know that many members and moderators alike were tired of some of the bickering that got rather personal.  That way, it's out in the open Everybody knows where everybody stands.  How could anyone be upset?  Nothing has really changed except the addition of a forum for fight threads.

...once again the benevolent admin tries to strike the delicate balance between a free and open forum and the need for moderation :mrgreen:

[Old Mr. Wilson]

I know that I am a somewhat controversial character here and in this world we live in today. I always have been. But I stand where I stand.
Period. I will not budge one nanometer. I realize that I've made some frequenters here rabidly pissed but my intentions were for you to think from another viewpoint. Most of the time that has been unsuccessful! Hahahahaha.
I will stick with the general discussion forum and not post here any longer.
I am abstract and unconventional but in my opinion a realist. I have over a half century on the planet of some valid emperical observations but they have fallen on blind eyes and deaf ears. I accept that this is a forum of the younger sect.
I wish you all well in your endeavors.

p.s. giv'em HELL Ed!.............your buddy in the brotherhood of the misunderstood, Good Old Mr. Wilson

[Cal Price]

Hang in there Wilson, us Boomers gotta stick together even if we are coming from somewhat different political perspectives. Kids need us, who else they gonna rebel against?

[yamahonkawazuki]

john i hear you and respect your opinion, and pablo (and other mods here), im sure youve seen some posts that made you want to pull out the heavy artillery (on some) , or worse . now if john HAD removed this forum, you (as mods) would have been MUCH busier, probably demanding payment (for the work you all do)from the removal of the posts, warnings and such. i do however find it interesting to read some of the arguments with the flame wars going on . but not with the racial/ethnic slurs going on here. but other than that it can be interestin at times. im also between bikes at the moment. (trying to sell my old porsche to get a gs project goin'), so im not in the main arena's much. but anyhoo im gonna get off my soapbox now, and maybe go either ,, or even . but im still gonna hang around. to quote c.. "lovin the gs And this forum"

[oramac]

I've always been kind.  Never picked on anyone.  I let everyone have their own opinions, and God will be the judge in the end.

[Zarathustra]

the chance of there being no God kind of makes that a problem though.

[Kerry]

Seems to me that if God DOES exist then His judgement would create a problem for some folks.  If He DOESN'T exist, what's the problem with oramac's basic statement?

I've always been kind. Never picked on anyone. I let everyone have their own opinions

I must be misinterpreting what you said.  :dunno:

[Zarathustra]

what he's doing is great, the only problem i see is that if you leave all judgement and righting of wrongs to God, who may or may not exist, we're letting people get away with a lot of stuff unaccounted for.  to let someone get away with something, and say God will judge them in the end may just be completely letting them off the hook.  i just dislike when God is used as an end all reckoner.

but hey, i'd never say anything bad about people always being kind and not picking on people.  i wish more people were like this.

[Kerry]

Cool.  That's what I thought you may have meant, just before I finished my reply.

[Phaedrus]

...once again the benevolent admin tries to strike the delicate balance between a free and open forum and the need for moderation :mrgreen:

I really like that quote and the theory behind it.

[JetSwing]

have you read the entire forum by now?  :lol:

[Phaedrus]

:lol: Damn near.

Since I am at work and getting paid, does that make me a "professional" GS twin reader?  :dunno:

[JetSwing]

no. just a professional post whore

[pandy]

And....don't forget....this is Santa's month , and he's watching to see who's been naughty or nice...:mrgreen: .

So do you want coal or toys... the choice is yours!

A big  :kiss: to all the admins and mods for trying to make GSTwin a friendlier place!