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Whats the Widest Tire you can Use??

Started by jefferygs500, February 20, 2005, 10:27:12 AM

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airbrush

Is there a tutorial for doing a bandit swap over? what year rim fits on a '04?
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sprint_9

Yea my chain is really close about an 1/8th, same as you.  I could write something up someday, dont know when though because in order to do so I need to take my rear wheel off and its a pain to get back on.  I used the write up on Pablo's site but it didnt work that way, it says that the inner spacer for the cush drive needs to be lengthend, I think instead of actually lengthening it 3 mm you need to shorten it 3mm, atleast thats what I did, what did you others end up doing?  I think I might work on my bike this afternoon, maybe Ill take a couple of pictures to show some of the clearances.

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Blueknyt

Yeah, the chain is close, it will swing over and touch alittle bit now and then making a shiney trail on tire edge, but not enough to chew the tire or anything.
Accelerate like your being chased, Corner like you mean it, Brake as if you life depends on it.
Ride Hard...or go home.

Its you Vs the pavement.....who wins today?

sprint_9

I give up, stupid digital camera sucks, I took like 20 pictures and not one of them worth a crap.  :bs:  :x  :x  :x

Kerry

Quote from: sprint_9I give up, stupid digital camera
What's the make and model?  (Of the camera, I mean.)  The manual might have some clues about minimum distances, etc.  If it has a zoom lens, try backing up and zooming in.  Does it have a "flower" (close up or macro) mode?
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tkm433

Quote from: Blueknyt.
ive got the bandit 400 wheel on back now , the 150 fit it well, put a 160/60/17 on and had to shim out the rear sproket and bend the brake stay arm out alittle and now works fine.

So what about the front sprocket?????????

Did you space it out so that the front and rear sprocket would stay in alignment?

When the bike was designed it was designed to have the chain run straight from the front sprocket to the rear and not at an angle.  If you spaced out the rear sprocket and did not correct the front alignment by the same amount then the chain is not properly aligned and could become a safety issue or just wear the chain and sprockets quicker.  Be careful because if the chain tension is not tight enough the chain could jump off the sprcokets and lock up the rear wheel due to an alignment issue.

The Buddha

OK if you need to push the rear sproket out ... you should in reality push the front one out too ... I believe anything over 1/4 inch will start rubbing the cases and the frame. You will also need to drill and tap the countershaft for a bolt ... cos an offset sproket with snap that circlip that's holding the sproket like a twig.
Cool.
Srinath.
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sprint_9

You have to offset the sprocket because the width of the wheel is different then the GS, and because you want the chain to clear the tire.  You can do this without having any chain tracking issues, its just a matter of getting the spacer within the cush drive and the spacer on the outside of it the right width.  I think for the outside I used the stock washer and then added one more additional thin washer, I dont know how the inner spacer turned out because we had to machine it down and I dont remember the measurements we took, but the wheel is centered in the bike and is off by like a 1/16th to one side and the chain tracks just as good as stock did.

Kerry, its some brand new Sony, the main problem is the retard running it. :dunno:  ;)

sprint_9

Sometime when I feel more ambitious and the weather is a little nicer Ill take the wheel off and measure up all washers and spacers you need and take pictures, then Ill do a write up and post it in the Faq forum.

JetSwing

Quote from: seshadri_srinathOK if you need to push the rear sproket out ... you should in reality push the front one out too ... I believe anything over 1/4 inch will start rubbing the cases and the frame. You will also need to drill and tap the countershaft for a bolt ... cos an offset sproket with snap that circlip that's holding the sproket like a twig.
Cool.
Srinath.
thanks alot for making it so complicated!  :roll:
My hunch was right...Pandy is the biggest Post Whore!

Blueknyt

ok, the shim i made was a thin washer, the spacer between sproket carrior and swingarm didnt change, the longer the distance between 2 points the lest drastic the angle. if it was 1/2 the length the off set would put the chain at a very harsh angle. a flat washer no thicker then a nickle is about what i used, also keep in mind, the Bandit Hub is more narrow then the GS hub, you have to shim the carrior out about 3mm anyway, thick flat washer on the inside is what i used., and had to shim over on the caliper side too. think all together its about 1/2 inch worth of shimming.

Pantablo has a write up on it all, for 150's i didnt have to bend the brake strut or shim as you can run 150's on stock rim without issues other then ground contact patch.
Accelerate like your being chased, Corner like you mean it, Brake as if you life depends on it.
Ride Hard...or go home.

Its you Vs the pavement.....who wins today?

The Buddha

OK if you use a B4 wheel and GS hub You need to shim the carrier out 3 mm ... what if you use the B4's carrier ...  I have a thin like real thin spacer for the sproket  ... between sproket and carrier and another similar thickness washer ... maybe penny thick or maybe nickel thick ... not thicker ... he included ... MIght as well do it and figure out ... this theory is too complicated ...
Cool.
Srinath.
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Blueknyt

Accelerate like your being chased, Corner like you mean it, Brake as if you life depends on it.
Ride Hard...or go home.

Its you Vs the pavement.....who wins today?

sprint_9

Did you have to machine the inner cush spacer down?  Thats what I initially did but ended up adding a washer on the inside too so Im not sure where I stand at now as compared to the stock unmachined spacer.

The added benefit I got from doing that though is now I have a dirt shield on my cush drive spacer instead of an open bearing.

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