Fell in love with a buell today or BUELL'S :)

[Susuki_Jah]

This is also reminding me of a story I was told by my MSF instructor. They used to have a Blast for people to ride at the school after they passed their practical exam. They had to stop that after a student 'blasted' through a chainlink fence!   No Joke - the bent fence pole was still there and the Blast was sitting on the lot. The incident seems to go along with some of the comments on that website - too torquey in 1st.

I dont think it matters how much tq a machine has , some dumb ass is going to run into somthing. lol

its all about control and some people were never ment to ride.

well despite that website and what other have to say negative about it im still going to buy a firebolt soon. maybe I can share my first hand experience on the forum when i get one.

but everyone is intitled to there opinion so only good vibes here on the forum.

[Rashad]

LOL.. i guess i didnt link far enough. GO there and click on american angst. Its actually a state policeman's website. Hes a good creative writer and he created a section devoted to harley davidson's flag slathered, lemming market.

I wont go any further for risk of being called a shark by someone who will spend three times as much for three times as old technology, and then say that was a good investment.

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[Rashad]

Ok,

First of all, i have nothing against cruisers. And if i wanted one, Hardley would be the last place id look. You have to be a moron to want one after comparing them to the competition. Honda, Yamaha etc they all make excellent bikes that run way longer than hardleys. And yes, hes very negative and personal about harleys, but if you look under the surface he gives a lot of facts. I dont read all he writes and take it as fact, but it does open your eyes a bit to how stupid 80% of the world can be.

If you dont realize that harley sells t-shirts and harley barbies first...and bikes second... do some more research. This isnt a Flame against harley, but i knew a DIE HARD hardley fan would pop up after i made a harmless comment about how i wouldnt buy their motor in a buell.

Do you realize how well suzuki's are built? How hard is it for an american company to do the same? cmon! Its a shame that we have the best of everything, yet the Japs continue to kill us on the one thing that matters the most to us on here.. MOTORCYCLES. That is what depresses me.

With any other bike, you would sit and compare specs.. do you see people going hmm... the harley cruisers make this much hp and tq, compared to the honda cruiser...

NO! People buy into the whole "lifestyle" campaign and just accept the bike. Imagine if people did that with everything. "Ehh its just 50 hp shy of the competition..but WHO CARES! its a PINTO! YEAH BABY im cool NOW!"

Companies like Victory (polaris) and Britton Give me hope....

Oh and i love how they are using Japanese Brakes on the new powercruiser...and covering the logos... Good job harley... Makes me proud to be american... only motor they ever built right was designed in Germany... Good job again.. Oh wait, thats logic and that plays no part in Harley Talk.

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[Rashad]

This forum used to be a great place to hang out. And yes, fogie, i ride. And i will ride after your buried. It has nothing to do with them not making a bike i like. It has everything to do with a company who thrives on t shirts and makes bikes for fun. I know my history. HARLEY used to be a very reputable company. But they focused lately on merchandise and their bikes are still the same old tired technology. Perhaps i came off a bit pissed, but that is because i work with two iddiot redneck morons who think that because they spent a fortune on their bikes (and it doesnt matter what they are, but they happen to be harleys), that they are somehow better than any "Crotchrocket."

THESE MORONS COULDNT CHANGE THEIR UNDERWEAR LET ALONE A SPARK PLUG.

So, i deal with this mentality everyday, of people who know nothing about bikes, but think they know everything. And they ride harley. So i get on that site one day, and everything he says, THEY DO. That is why i hate harley riders. That and they never wave back.

I never used to be biased.. i loved all things two wheeled... But for some reason i never got the harley "bug" and i just dont understand why someone would think their duck grew five inches because they bought a peice of metal. Its pathetic. I could buy my coworkers sportster tomorrow... its like ten grand brand new. I just dont see any FACT that makes it better. That is all im saying. Its almost like pricing a GS500E far above all other more advanced, faster sportbikes and saying..well its higher because its a GS....

HMMMM..maybe suzuki should try that one...

Dont take offense (even though you have no reason to, unless you work for HD)...

[Zilla]

I'd get a Speed Triple over any Buell but that's just me.

I have to agree. Especailly the new model.

[cernunos]

Hey, what love is floatin' around here? Oh, and no, the XB12 is not a dual cylinder Blast (although the Blast motor is very durable from what I hear). The only thing the XB and the Blast share is the bore and stroke...not even the same cases and not even the same tranny, cams, heads, etc. And the XB is not a sportster engine although you can swap most parts between the two. Rash, why is it that people who don't ride an HD or Buell usually have to have something bad to say about them, but if you talk to most HD owners (not posers) they admire other types of bikes. Sounds like you really got an issue with yer friends and shouldn't take it out on the bike. And for what it's worth, I don't think I ever owned a stitch of clothing, boots or whatever that had the HD logo on it. Old technology? The wheel itself is really old, but it's like I learned as an automotive engineer; you really shouldn't try to re-invent the wheel. Just because something has it's roots in the past doesn't make it old...just look at the AK-47. It is an old design, but you probably can't find a more reliable auto-loading rifle. Hey, man, I'm not flamin' ya, I'm just sayin'...own one an' if you find out it doesn't hold up, then call it a POS. But no matter, I'll allus luv my Baby GS and this forum and you too.  :kiss:

C.......

[Ed_in_Az]

 

[Jake D]

I saw Easy Rider once.  

Those guys were Liberals, pretty sure.  Probably should have carried an AK, but hindsight being what it is.  The times?  They are 'a changin'!  GOP and HD for me!  Great bike for the Capital Hill types.   :lol:

But I love the Buell City X, my GS, and the forum. . .

[Rashad]

Ok im just having a really bad day, so for what its worth, you make some good points about thinking im superior etc. I apologize for bashing HD.

I still dont agree that they make bikes, but i guess i couldve been a little bit nicer about it. I just hate those bast-..... nevermind. :dunno:

[Ed_in_Az]

I hope your evening goes better, Rashad.

[JohNLA]

Harley's are made for fat guys. Nothing looks as funny as a fat  pilot on a rocket.
Sorry, this thread was starting to get lame and I thought I would add some spice.
:nana:
Buells are cool

[Rashad]

Harley's are made for fat guys. Nothing looks as funny as a fat  pilot on a rocket.
Sorry, this thread was starting to get lame and I thought I would add some spice.
:nana:
Buells are cool

LMAO.. i missed you john  :mrgreen:

[chuey]

Speed Triple 117HP lotsa torque good looks and all for about 3 grand!!!!

[Susuki_Jah]

The reason Old technology is still around and still runs is the simple fact that its still around and still runs!!.

thats wonderfull that someone wants to buy a new plastic piece of junk like a new Dodge, (sorry dodge owners but my parents have a 92 grand voyager, been through 3 trannies and the doors fell off litterally and my dad keeps his cars in tip top shape) anyways its the new more crap is better mentality, new sport bikes have enough fairings to give a guy a headache just for changing the air filter or some other part. Im still a young guy and yet i love cars and bikes that were manufactured years before i was even a thought.  thats why I own old volvos and thats why my roomates own cars like 73 chevelle SS and 82 firebird.

its fun to be on a sport bike but there is somthing about HD's that no other bike can top and that is RESPECT the company only dropped off a few years in reliabilty and then swept back up with new leadership. I watched the history channel special on it . and so what if they sale T-shirts , its not the HD factory making those T-shirts they sell there name to other companies to do it for them.  

and if we want to talk about new technology look at the buell, fuel in the frame and exhuast on the bottom and look at the sweet braking system.

with HD and buell you are comparing them to japanies sport or cruiser bikes. but thats like comparing a 69 SS Camero to a 3000GT  Turbo

they are both fast but hands down the 69 ROCKS  the 3000GT Respect and the sound of that motor, plus the looks.

I guess im a Young man In an old school mind set.

I dont what it is about all these new sport bikes but seems like they sure have all the young people brain washed. my friend cant get over the fact about wanting a ninja ..... personaly id rather buy somthing everyone doesnt have.

[Rashad]

Well, its not about plastic.

Its about moving forward YEAR AFTER YEAR. If you look at the history of sportbikes, and how far they have come...

There was a time when 1000 cc bikes made less hp and tq than the 600cc bikes of today!!!! THAT IS HUGE!

A big factor for me:

WHEN FUNCTION DETERMINES FORM.... ON SOMETHING I AM RIDING AT 80MPH... LIFE IS GOOD. DONT FORGET THAT.

[Rashad]

Oh and for the record, i sell about every popular make of car.

Dodge is probably the most likely to break in my experience.. new or old. I am starting to think the viper is the most reliable car they ever built. They are hardly a good example of good technology.

Now, its funny you mention Volvo because we used to sell them new. They have excellent technology, and are pretty much up to par with BMW in fit and finish.

That is apples to tomatoes, but the point isnt about plastic or new age mentality... its advancement.

Follow the history of sportbikes all the way from the first air-cooled singles... on up. Its amazing. That is progress..and without that kind of ingenuity in place in everyday life, we would still be telegraphing, NOT POSTING on a nice computer screen.

[Susuki_Jah]

I never said it was a bad thing to advance even though somtimes it can be when cars only go 100k-200k when they should be going about 400k atleast , I mean i can buy old volvo's for 200$ all day and they run and nothing is really wrong with them and they will keep running for 400+k
I wish the industry would push the bar up for standards, I mean its awesome that can make a GPS DVD COMPUTER system in the dash but can they make the car last?

all im trying to get at is you cant get irritated at a company that is sticking with old but good technology, we still use the same math that was deveoped many many years ago, and basic princepals we base new technology off of.  some people might jsut buy them for the hype but some people actually do like what they have to offer.

the sport bike industry shows alot of trends that i dont want to be a part of. there not bad bikes , i just like the bikes that people turn away from.
I like a loud choppy sound not a hi-pitch yang. I dont like fiarings, and I do like reliability and somthing that stands out and thats what i found in HD's and Buell bikes. now that is a personal opinion that i know a few others share.

its just the guys across the river thats all we are. Different side of it that is.

and on another note im glad that most bike manufacturs are still seperate unlike most car manufacturs, atleast to my knowledge they still are, correct me if im wrong.  

thats one of the reasons i wont buy a new car. volvo is owned by ford now , such a disapointment .  
so Im just gonna take old cars and restor them to new .
building your own cars somtimes is the only way to assure its going to be reliable.

much love to all bikes, except scooters (sick of the damn scooters around my city i want to run them over . )

[Rashad]

Ok, much understood.

With all due respect however, I was a GM guy 100% when i started selling Fords...

Now, 7 months into it.. i am completely sold on FORD TRUCKS. I dont like the cars...they are bland and boring.. but man, they make the best trucks out there.. and i can compare 04 chevy's and dodges to them all day long at work. FORD makes amazing products... But yes, they do steal technology.... the new 500 and Freestyle for instance, basically all VOLVO right there. They are excellent vehicles, but blatantly VOLVO.

I will say that FORD buying VOLVO was a good thing. VOLVO still does their thing 100%, unchanged, but now FORD implements their stuff into the new FORDS.

Either way, i can respect a guy who rides a harley because he likes the bike, not because he wants leather chaps and tassles with a bar and shield tattooed on his wang.

Since you ride a GS, you must be good guys anyways.. so what was i thinking?