not again...help

[poormanracing]

so i decided to do an oil change...drain plug was tight so i gave it some more effort and it loosened up..righty tighty, lefty loosy, correct?    :x ..when lossening up all (lefty)  the way i took forever of screwin so i decided to turn it the other way (righty) and wallah its out   ...after changing the oil and filter, the drain plug wont screw tight and oil is leakin from the drain plug...  :x
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any solution for this? o-ring or sealant? or new drain plug? (hope not )

happy easter! i guess

edit: saw the washer in it..didn't replace them..no prob i think in that area..help

[The Buddha]

OK The draon plug is steel, the pan is crapola aluminium mix ... you do the math ... I have in the past on a EX 500 tapped the pan with a 1/4 inch pipe tap and used a brass plug ... no idea what you can do ... You got it out by tightening ... how ... Its upside down ... you sure you counted for that ...
Cool.
Srinath.

[poormanracing]

i got it out from loosening it going to the right..i messed it up by turning it to the left.....

Its upside down ... you sure you counted for that ...
Cool.
Srinath.

OMG   ...i think i really messed up..it make sense now (upside down)...oh men...i checked it out still dripping...any more suggestion other than tapping? (quick fix :dunno: )

[conflicttheorist]

New crush washer.

[conflicttheorist]

after re-reading your post, it looks like you are screwed.  Stripped it like an MFer.  Had a friend  who did that to his car.  He drained all the oil out, JB welded or otherwise permanently attached the drain screw so it wouldn't leak anymore, and did future oil changes by running a hose into the oil -fill-level-check-tubey-thing (some mechanics use another term) and pumping the old oil out.  It may be possible to do something like that on the GS.  You may not even need a pump if all the oil can come out where the filter is.  This would be a very car on bricks in the front yard way of doing it if you know what I mean.  Maybe try something more sophisticated first.

[poormanracing]

thanx conflicttheorist...im thinking of giving it a try...do those things have universal size? what size do i need? also im thinking of using my old one with a new one somewhat overlapping so the thread would be tight...is that cool?...thanx for the replies!

[conflicttheorist]

thanx conflicttheorist...im thinking of giving it a try...do those things have universal size? what size do i need? also im thinking of using my old one with a new one somewhat overlapping so the thread would be tight...is that cool?...thanx for the replies!

I was thinking of the two washer thing, too.  I don't know if that will work, but it is a clever idea.
I just responded with the crush washer initially because I read "oil leak" and nine times out of ten the reason is because you or a crappy mechanic didn't change it.  On a lot of modern machines you should replace the aluminum crush washer every time.  The thing is basically an aluminum gasket.  People end up stripping there drain screws trying to stop leaks when they should have replaced the washer.

[davipu]

if you don't fix it I have a couple of extra oil pans that havn't been stripped yet.

[poormanracing]

davipu: thanx for the offer...ill keep it in mind

conflict theorist: just read ur other thread ...damn.. ...im a nice person...goes to church....respect the elderly and women...help my folks with their finances...why oh why!!!!...sigh....hehehehe :mrgreen: ...i'll try the two or three  crush washer 1st..hope...cross finger it'll fix it....OH...what about a drain valve...would be ok to a GS? read something about it been used in an STI...i'll JB weld it...so no leaks...oil drain in it...wallah .. i dont know if it will screw up the GS look or any ground clearance issue..any opinion?

[stefman722]

after re-reading your post, it looks like you are screwed.   a hose into the oil -fill-level-check-tubey-thing (some mechanics use another term) and pumping the old oil out.   This would be a very car on bricks in the front yard way of doing it if you know what I mean.

LOL :lol:

[poormanracing]

i guess cool heads really prevail..after bangin my head in the wall a few times...and taking a hot steamy shower to calm my nerves..i played with words in the SEARCH on found these posts...

http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5592&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=oil+drain+plug&sid=4b16053b4a06f96b153a069700fa6152

http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4707


the teflon tape idea sounds good   ..helicoil tap should be cool too as a last resort coz with the way things are going dont wanna mess with other GS parts ..

[The Buddha]

OK that tears it ... You want to be dragged by the ear across the streets of your town ... remember I know your address ... I can arrange for some Gstwin muscle to do it even If I dont do it myself ...
Teflon tape will give way under heat ... yea and at 70-80-90 mph you'll have the entire contents of your crankcase dumped under your back wheel ...
Heli coil ... OK the damn pan is all of about 3mm thick ... you wont get enough threads to catch ... and it will hold oil and not drain out when you want to drain it ...
Buy Davipu's pan and new gaskets ... best solution, most likely cheapest as well  ...
Second option ... Tap with 1/4 inch pipe threads and use a brass cap ...
Nothing else is even worth considering ... No teflon, no JB weld, No duct tape, no nothing ... pan is cheap, motor is pricey, crashing is worse  ...
Cool.
Srinath.

[poormanracing]

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

thanx srinath...i thought i got it... :lol:  :lol:

[The Buddha]

Sorry ... that came out harsher than I intended ... I've been dealing with this dumbass that's trying to rebuild a savage and he's more than willing to sink $1000 into a $500 bike but wants me to cut $3 on a custom made valve out of a Kibblewhite blank ... yea saving a whopping $12 ... Stoopid people ...
Cool.
Srinath.

[poormanracing]

hehehe..im not tryin to be cheap (i sent my carbs to you, didnt I ?  :lol: )

1.) tapping with 1/4 pipe threads... the best... but i read it needs some skill in tapping to be perfect and by thing things are going  :x  im hesitant in doing it

2.) davipu oil pan..he pm about his oil pan VERY reasonble offer   im really down with it...thinkin of it as last resort dont wanna strip bolts again

i try to avoid these two thing coz of the disassembly of the exhaust, oil pan..something might go wrong (as usual :dunno: ie exhaust bolt prone to stripping) and workin on an apt carport where the manager ( :nana: )breathes behind my neck    :lol: ( I work on the bike very early 5 am so the biatch wont nag me hehehe)

i saw this thread though

http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14656

jmpowie solved it..no leak..

any opinion?  

p.s. hope im not irrtating u guys...hehehe

[The Buddha]

OK yea he said all fixed ... only problem is ... he wont know till either it falls off and then you know its screwed ... or he takes the pan off and sees how good it is ... I am certain ... cos I did the same thing on an EX500 and yea I know Kwak is crappier usually ... but I dont think the pan is much different ... and the pan isn't thick enough to be secure and the deeper wall is one sided ... meaning there is a 1/2 well and the other 1/2 is open to allow oil to drain ... Just swap it out ... maybe rent a storage space or do the 5 am run, or push it into the street where there is street parking and do it or put it on the sidewalk if there is room and do it ... done all of that before ... its 20 mins ... exhaust can be loosened and removed wihtout it looking like you're working ... then this comes off with 8-9 bolts ...
Check wiht davipu how thick it is ... I'll bet its pretty thin ... and its made of shitete ...
BTW you are cheap ... you sent me your carbs instead of to a dealer ... OK fine cheaper and better ...   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Cool.
Srinath.