LOUD BIKES UNITE!!!

[Susuki_Jah]

I seriously wish I could get everyone of you with loud bikes and pipes to get out here in my neighborhood and rev your engines. my neigbors  for the first time in 6 months since my roomates and I moved in spoke to us today, he was giving me shaZam! about working on my car at 1030 at night in my back yard and giving me shaZam! about having my flood lights on and then he proceded to say that he has been cool with the motorcycle and my band for too long now..... WTF ? cool with my motorcycle , it is my main mode of transportation at the moment he better be  cool with it. then he procedes to say he wont hesitate to call the cops, meanwhile my little brother who just got back from iraq and my other friend is just chilling there looking at him like wtf. then he walks away. DUDE is going down. Im riding my bike at 3am. 8am. every freeken inconvenient time for this dush bag, and he also proceeded to say the other neighbors were in agreement with him, i said what neighbors? its not like anyone every introduced us to the neighborhood? so there for I have no neighbors.

why do people like this exist, anyways its on. hes going down.....


BTW hes renovating his house and he gets up at 6am to do shaZam! with some tractor and it gets annoying to here him banging around in the morn. SAME shaZam!.  anyone else from VA want to make one of his nights a living hell. ill have every bike i can get rev rev rev till he cant take it anymore and blowns his own brains out lol.  not litterally but you get the point

[Michael]

Sounds like you're really heated at the moment.  Just remember, revenge is a dish best eaten cold.
Think about what it is you are doing that's annoying him.  If its not illegal, ignore him and let him stew in his own juices a while.  If it is illegal, think very carefully before attracting attention to it.
And try not to prove to the neighbourhood that you are as big a DH as he's saying you are.

[raylarrabee]

All renters and homeowners are entitled to "quiet enjoyment" of their homes.  You have to consider your behavior in the aggregate, not just this one isolated incident.  It's probably the combination of the band, loud pipes, etc that eventually built up to your neighbor being upset.

Probably best to talk to him and see if you two can come to an understanding about what is and is not acceptable (for BOTH of you).  Getting into a "battle" with a neighbor never ends well, especially if you are young, in a band, have a loud bike and your neighbor is a Ward Cleaver type.  The po-po will always side with the "respectable" one in a situation like that.

Remember that you BOTH have a right to quiet use and enjoyment of your property and that you and your neighbors need MUTUAL respect to attain that.  So, throw some old mattresses and carpet up in the room where your band plays, keep it under 8k rpm's on the way out of your neighborhood and play nice.  That way, you can politely tell him to f%$k off if he complains or calls the cops.  

[crash]

yeah, i would seriously think things through before going to war with this guy.  most places have some sort of laws about appropriate "quiet" times, and revving your shaZam! at 3am is not very smart.

i've had my neighbours call the cops on me once.  not anything noise related, they were just being dicks about me parking my car next to my driveway, and finally i told them to get the f%$k off the property and never return... they called the cops.

let me tell you, popo get pissed off when they get called for "bullshit" stuff like that.  he talked to me, he realized i was well within the law. he told me to "avoid any physical confrontation and call 911 if they continue to harass me" and went to yell at them.  it was pretty awesome =)

so yeah, you don't have to be nice to him, because that's not always possible, but make sure you're not doing anything illegal.  if you're legal, he can complain all he wants.

[raylarrabee]

there are few things more satisfying that being in the right.  Get your sh@t together;  that way you can be polite and calm if your neighbors get riled up.  Nothing sweeter than calmy being right when somebody is in your face being a jerk--plus, the police will side with the calm, polite, right person EVERY time.

A little compromise can go a long way, too.  Try finding out what specific beefs your neighbor(s) have and compromise a bit:  stop wrenching at 9:30 instead of 10:30, for example.  A little compromise might bring him back from the boiling point and make him more tolerant of the other stuff that bothers him (band, bike, etc.)

[Anonymous]

raylarrbee,

Agree completely.  

Maybe your flood lights are keeping their kid awake.  Maybe he goes to bed early and it's keep HIM awake.  Maybe your bike (with loud pipes?) starting and taking off or coming home at midnight are waking them up.  Maybe they're sick and tired of the thumping of the bass and drums when the band plays for hours and hours.

I can feel for them if I'm correct in my assumptions.  I'd be pissed too.

You need to remember (if you are in fact at fault) that you're NOT the only person with a right to enjoy yourself.  For many peace and quiet are how they enjoy themselves.  Tell him that 6AM is too early for YOU to hear his housework.

I'm just trying to save you from a big hassle.  If the rest of the neighbors are on his side you're in for trouble.  Eviction, fines, having something happen to your stuff.  When people snap you never know what will happen.

Be cool and maybe look for a place more isolated where you CAN do as you wish without disturbing the neighborhood.

[Susuki_Jah]

well here are a few things, none of us are home all day, so we dont make noise during the day at all, somtimes I come home at midnight on my motorcycle yes but because I have been working somewhere or doing somthing I needed to be done, I pull in my yard and shut the bike off asap. I cant do anything about that. I wrecked my truck last week and the motorcycle is all I have at the moment to Ride and even then it is my right to ride it at any point in the day I please.

the other thing with this guy is , he could have asked, but no he didnt he jsut stormed and I tried to be nice to him but I dont repsond well to threats. yes everyone is entitled to a qiuet moments, well he has 20 hours out of the day of peace and qiuet, I hardly work on my cars anymore at night and the band practices once a week. I have a right to a day or two of my work aswell. If the light is bright , he can shut the blinds, .. he lives over 500 feet away from my house there is no way my band keeps him awake, our basement is almost sound proof, he was mad last night because my brother and I were talking at 1030 and he had started his car up..

this is what we deal with living in the city. yes we live DOWNTOWN. its expected to here some of these noises,

-Cars passing buy on a constant basis
-the bus coming through every half an house (yes we all loive along bus stops)
- the traines blowing there horns every hour for about 10 mins straight (and louder than anything I could make noise with)
- people talking ( you always here people in the city)
- guns shots (you here it more than you like to)
- cops
- sirens
- street lights blare
-car doors shutting and opening
- dogs barking
-cats fighting

I work during the day and then come home to try to salvage some work on my car at night, my roomate works 2nd shift and gets home at midnight and in the morning when this guy is working on his house at 6am its gets rather annoying but we dont say anything because its his right. just like its my right to work on things at 10pm. noise law doesnt go in effect untill 11pm anyways and doesnt go off untill 9am. we are both at fault maybe but atleast I can be a man about it and not a jackass. like I said before if he had come to me and introduced himself politely and asked me to try to keep it down for the night ( even though I didnt relize starting a car was a crime) then I would have been a good sport and said Im sorry man , Im Josh< ill try to keep it down for you tonight so your kid can sleep. have a good night. but he didnt he threatend me off hand.

if he wanted peace and qiuet he shouldnt have moved to the city



^^ in reply to the above post.. none of the other neighbors have said anything to us. for 6 months we have been living normal. My bands basment is sound proofed a bit. we sound like a quiet AM radio outside at the LOUDEST!

[raylarrabee]

try explaining your work schedule to him politely.  Basically, just try anything to avoid a feud with neighbors.  I've been there.  Trust me, nobody wins in situations like that.

Plus, you never know what happened in his house before he came over.  Maybe his kid was crying, maybe his wife was yelling at him to go shut you guys up...who knows.  Try to approach him calmly and sort it out.  I'm not saying you're in the wrong, just that getting hot-headed about it will not help you.  

If he's a real jerk, go to your local PD station, city hall, or courthouse and get a copy of the noise ordinance.  Read it, learn it and talk it over with your neighbor.

I do community mediation work, and I can tell you from experience, calm, friendly discourse and compromise are the only good, cheap, easy ways to solve disputes like this.

Good luck!

[Susuki_Jah]

yea i was pretty mad when I wrote this and Im still a little heated, but Im not going to start a war with him. we kept it pretty qiuet for the rest of the night. im not trying to piss people off, its just hard to understand peopel when they cant even be nice about things. i didnt even know who he was because not a single person in our neighborhood even said Hi to us in 6 months, kinda makes you sad.

we are good people who live at my house and we dont want trouble. I wish he would have stayed around long enough to talk it over with me, but he said his mess and walked away without me even getting much of a word in.   oh well we arent doing anything illegal here and I dont feel like the cops would do anything to us because we arent loud. so I will just not worry about it. if it comes up again I will try to talk it over with him.

thanks for the replys.

[Jake D]

Very few conflicts get as nasty as neighbor disputes.  

Personally, it ain't worth it.  

I had a neighbor shoot a crossbow bolt at my front door once.  That was strange!

[Susuki_Jah]

Very few conflicts get as nasty as neighbor disputes.  

Personally, it ain't worth it.  

I had a neighbor shoot a crossbow bolt at my front door once.  That was strange!

haha did you ever ask him about it?


I just cant wait till my brother gets out of the Marines and moves back home. Him and I are buying a house out in the country on the outskirts of the city and building a sweet shop. you know one of those huge air plane hanger deals .  


the city is fun but alot of screwed up people live here.

[V8Pinto]

I have made deals with most of my neighbors and I have no problems running open header V8's at 2am for quick checks.  I make sure not to abuse their tolerance and they do the same in return.  I help my very old neighbor (right next to my garage) with his firewood and catch his dog when it gets out and he lets me start up anytime.  On the other side, the neighbor has a band - I just went over and hung out one time and brought a sixer with me.  On the other side of me are horses.  I joke about the smell once in a while and say I don't mind it and they are tolerant of me and my buddies' drunken sunday midnight booney crashing on the dirt bikes.

You never know, your neighbor might be a veteran and have a common topic with your buddy/bro.

You definitely have an issue with his 6am bit I bet if you pointed it out in the same sentence as your band, and said you didn't mind it, he would be more likely to compromise.

[Jake D]

It was a woman!!!  She was a retired marine, I think.  

But no, I didn't give her the satisfaction.

[Susuki_Jah]

yea back at my parents house in the suburbs people were cool with me doing whatever. we knew everyone and everyone did as they pleased and never bothered anyone. I would be working through the night on engine swaps, and like you said running open headers. but not with v8's four cyclenders lol . a VERY NASTY SOUND btw. and my neighbors would have parties, heck my parents would throw parties for my friends and the neighbors in our back yard and we woudl all hang out around a bon fire.

but you see thats southern living , youd have to grow up with that to understand it.  

these "yuppies"  here in the city dont get the way we do it in the south . lol

[pdg108]

Trust me I speak from experiance, I whole heartedly agree with raylarrabee and the others.  Getting in to a pi$$ing match with this guy trying to prove who can be a bigger jerk will only escalate the problem.  

I live in a duplex in the country serene and quiet with my old neighbors, my new ones moved in a month or so ago and are LOUD.  I had no idea how quiet my old nieghbors were.  The new people have three young kids, two big dogs, and large stereos.   About a week or two of CONSTANT banging, thumping, running, screaming, pounding stereos, barking, and yes, loud sex, I was about to explode.  But, I decided I better cool off, talk to them and see if we could figure out.  After a five minute disscussion it has been toned down quite a bit.  Not quiet, but at least its reasonable, I can tell they are trying, I don't really expect them to be tip toeing around for my sake, but their kids throwing balls at the common wall at 6AM on a Satuday has.  (still haven't figured a polite way to ask them to move their headboard a few inches away from the wall )

But the way I see it, now I have asked them nicely.  And if they go out side the rules then it gives me liscence to too.  Basically if they get on me about the bike or something I have a hundred different things they could stop doing.

Now riding your bike should not be a problem.  Its your transport, you have no choice.  Sitting there reving you car at 11:00 might be because you have the choice not too.  When you CHOOSE to make noise late that ticks him off, just like when he CHOOSES to work on his house early.  He's just as ticked off as you are right now.

Just remember just like he shouldn't have moved to the city if he wanted quiet, you shouldn't have moved in if you didn't want to deal with people like him.

Cool down a bit and go over and talk with him, he's proably a nice guy just like you, just got excited and went off.  While your out go introduce yourself to the nieghbors, people these days won't come to you, you have to go to them.  Heck, I didn't talk to my nieghbors for a couple weeks and we live in the same house.  

[raylarrabee]

Not sure of your situation, but if you rent a house, be prepared for a sad fact of life:  homeowners hate renters...with a passion.  Especially groups of young people renting together.

I lived in a group house with 4 friends after college.  It was in a quiet neighborhood and we were WAY towards the quiet end of the spectrum as far as young people go.  When we moved in , we went to all the neighbors and introduced ourselves; gave them our phone numbers and told them to let us know ASAP if we were doing anything that bothered them.

Before we had the few parties we threw, we went around and told them were were gonna throw one and said to tell us if we were being too noisy.  Still, 3 seperate times, people called the cops instead of just asking us to keep it down.

Howeowners hate renters.  Sad, but true.

[cernunos]

Hmmmm, Joerocker and I actually agree on something for once. This was exactly what I was talking about in the "why did you choose your religion" thread. Your rights to make a "joyful" noise and raise hell end when they infringe upon the rights of others to have peace and quiet.

Now, your mad because someone complained and didn't do it in a sweet and sugary way. You want to escalate the conflict by causing more hate and discontent. You know, the guy may be nervous about confronting people over these types of things...I know I am. If you've had too many conflicts of this type erupt into physical violence in the past you can tend to get very nervous about confronting the situation; you expect it to get physical. From all the discourse about who shot John, etc., it looks like you are the one in the wrong here. If you go out of your way to get along then your neighbors are going to be a bit more tolerant.

You want to inflate the situation till he "blows his brains out"? He may just go off the end and blow yours out. Stop, look in the mirror, be truthful with yourself, and see if you have it in your heart to "sacrifice" some small thing in order to get along with your neighbor.

Everyone doesn't live in your world...you live in ours.

C.......

[Susuki_Jah]

yea i was pretty mad when I wrote this and Im still a little heated, but Im not going to start a war with him. we kept it pretty qiuet for the rest of the night. im not trying to piss people off, its just hard to understand peopel when they cant even be nice about things. i didnt even know who he was because not a single person in our neighborhood even said Hi to us in 6 months, kinda makes you sad.

we are good people who live at my house and we dont want trouble. I wish he would have stayed around long enough to talk it over with me, but he said his mess and walked away without me even getting much of a word in.   oh well we arent doing anything illegal here and I dont feel like the cops would do anything to us because we arent loud. so I will just not worry about it. if it comes up again I will try to talk it over with him.

thanks for the replys.

i guess no one read what I wrote here after i was heated in the moment..



and as far as me living in everyone elses world, remember it goes both ways I have rights to work on my car when i have time aswell. remember im part of the world to and he has to remember that aswell.

a few symple facts. he lives in the city... enough said.

[denman]

two years ago i had a war with a rent house acrost the stree from me,dudes with loud cars and extra loud systems.   all this was from 9 ;00 till when they ran out of beer or what ever and split.  i went
over and ask them to tone it down,they said WTF old dude.   so i toled them it was 911 every time i hear any thing.   things got real weard after that. fricking punks i found out who oned that house and started hammering the owner. the punks moved HELL YES!.   then i moved.     i know that when i was in my twenty's i to was a know it all little punk.

[raylarrabee]

My brother and his wife found an interesting, if expensive, solution to their rowdy neighbor's waking up my baby nephew at all hours:  They bought the house.  They carried on the lease for the rest of the term, and the tennants were very well behaved.