Stephen goes down hard

[crash]

well "Bob", considering i am an EMT, i hardly consider my remarks ignorant.  they were, in fact, "insightful and intelligent".

he could have had a fractured spinal column, or internal bleeding, or a myriad of other problems, none of which can be diagnosed in the field, and most definitely not by the patient.

the fact that they told him to "definitely" go to the ER means that they suspected that he could be seriously injured.  the fact that they suggested his wife drive him there means that they are, in fact, f%$king assholes who were too lazy to do their jobs, and while shooting them is not an option, firing them seems just.

they were damn lucky that Stephen, by some stroke of luck or devine intervention, was _not_ seriously injured.  because you would be singing a different song if he went into shock on his way to the ER with no one but his wife there to help him.

spare me the professional courtesy bullshit.

[GeeP]

Good to hear you're not heavily damaged.  It certainly isn't every day somebody walks away from hitting a car at that speed!  You have some damn good luck on your side.  

Heal up soon, but be careful not to heal to your sheets.  

They're all in such a damn hurry to get to Wal Mart for a can of beans.  I nearly flattened a girl a few months ago pulling out of there.  Yakking on the cell and doing her makeup.  You'd think a bright orange dump truck in a full slide would make an impression.  Didn't have a clue.  Never even saw me.  Luckily for her I saw her "inching" as I was approaching.  

They're not so much out to kill us.  They just don't have a clue.  They kill themselves more often than not.  

[Blueknyt]

and most definitely not by the patient

while true to a point,  even you As an EMT can not FORCE someone onto a backboard and transport them against thier wishes if they are lucid  and mentaly stable enough to answer  EMT questions.  
Even the Police cant do that leagaly unless he broke the law and was under arrest.

Massive bleeding,missing limb, gunshot wound, you cant touch him if he refuses treatment in a mentaly coherent mannor. you can Visualy monitor and attempt to convince him its for the best. but you cant touch him. Once he can no longer answer or isnt controling himself, then you have free rein to stablise the subject for transport. otherwise they sign off refusing treatment.

But as an EMT you would know this already. :mrgreen:

[rcepluch]

Thank you "Blueknyt".  I appreciate the support.

I stand by my previous comments, as they were certainly  substantiated by "crash's" last refreshing message.


Bob

[crash]

i doubt they would have had to force him.  it's all a matter of having to accept a patient refusal AMA vs working a refusal out of the patient.

[knightsky69]

i have lurked this forum for a while and dont even own a bike yet, but after reading your post it has given me a lot to think about. Im glad to hear that you are ok. and thank god you were wearing your gear. i live in myrtle beach and during bike weeks it is so scarry to see so many people in teeshirts and shorts and girls wearing next to nonthing. this was a bad mishap, and i hope when you heal up you feel like riding agine.

[daneilah]

Glad to hear you're OK Stephen.   It got my heart pounding just reading your post.

I'm a new rider, and found that the costs for all that protective gear can really mount when you're first starting out.  I've not yet forked out the cash for protective pants, but I'm sure thinking about it now.

Heal fast!

Neil.

[Blueknyt]

Crash, the biggest issue i see with your whole comment is shown in stephen 's discription. That being the Lack of your name or you showing up on site as a rider or EMT. Like Me, you wernt there. Unless you were there to know what was asked,check,looked at poked proded and articles of clothing cut to get the answers that you would ask. you insulting another EMT,paramedic,or any other medical response personel when you wernt there to wittness the examunation, is beyound un professional and deserves retraction and apollogy to stephen.

[Laura]

I'm glad you're going to be okay, Stephen.

[TPR5699]

Stephen, I'm glad to hear that you're ok.    
I had a crash back in 07/03 that had me out of work for 8 months.
My wife knew how much I missed riding, so she brought me my 2001 GS back in 10/04.  I'm glad to be back in the saddle.  
Just take all the time you need, but don't let this crash keep you from doing something that you love: RIDING.
Once you get back to it, you'll love it even more.
Take care.
Steve aka TPR5699