$310.50

[cernunos]

Take a look at this link and see if maybe it gives you any recourse:

http://www.123driving.com/florida-ticket.shtml

Love the little GS, Florida (especially Ocala), and this forum.

C.......

[rizp]

im screwed i went back and there was a speed limit sign before the corner =(

Dude..
Since  this is your first offence, the judge will probably make you pay the money, but he will probably allow you to go to traffic school and keep it off your record.. That will keep your insurance from going up..

Its a very "yes sir, no sir" situation..
Go to court dressed in your sunday best and be as polite as possible..

Just admit you made a mistake and most judges admire that..

Faxxxy!

This is very sound advice. I've been to court several times for varying traffic offenses, and WITHOUT A DOUBT, it'll be reduced if you show up clean-cut, well dressed and respectful. You can't imagine how many people get in there dressed like they just got out of bed, with no semblance of respect for the fact that they're in a court.

In most situations if you fight the charge, they'll offer to let you plead guilty to a lesser offense. It frees up your wallet and their docket. If it's your first, they might offer up "failure to obey a traffic control device" which in NYS won't -> an increase in insurance if you keep your nose clean afterward. irrespective of the specific level of reduction, I would strongly advise fighting the ticket. definitely dress up, and be cordial. I'm sure you'll get it reduced to some degree.

My personal best was leaving a toll plaza that had a speed limit change afterward from 65 to 55mph (Albany, NY). I blasted out of there and onto I-90 and got tagged for "79 in a 55". I showed up to court, not in a suit and tie, but wearing hospital scrubs (I had to work later that day). after waiting a while I got pulled out of the courtroom, into the flippin' cafeteria next door!

I sit down with whoever at a table, and he asks me if I was coming from work. I tell him, "no, heading in, actually."

He then looks at the charges and says, "oh 79 in a 55..that's pretty steep".

to which I responded, "well, what happened was...-"

at which point he cuts me off with, "yeah yeah yeah, I don't care. How's parking on the highway?

To which I responded (with absolutely no game-face) "GREAT!" we shook hands, and I plead guilty to that. Heck yeah, I'll take the parking ticket.

In short:
1. fight the charge
2. look the part[/b]

good luck.

Regards,
Riz

[Altruism111]

(In Florida we have a no pursuit policy which basically mean no cops can chase you if you fail to pull over. Not suggested if you drive the baby GS I think they can chase you long enough to get your tag #!!)

Enjoy this story happend about 2 weeks ago.



Leading authorities on a racetrack-speed motorcycle chase and going the wrong way on the highway in rush-hour traffic is no way to impress a potential boss.

Authorities said David Carpenter, 24, was set to take his physical exam next week to be a Florida Highway Patrol trooper, but his dangerous habit of gunning his Honda 1000 motorcycle on the Florida Turnpike and fleeing from troopers likely put an end to his law enforcement aspirations.

"We told him don't bother showing up," said FHP spokesman Lt. Julio Pajon, after officers snared Carpenter on Monday. "Getting arrested is an automatic disqualifier."

For weeks, troopers and other authorities have seen Carpenter speeding through traffic at speeds of up to 140 mph. He managed to flee at least twice and almost caused two wrecks involving troopers, Pajon said.

At 8:30 a.m. Monday morning, however, the FHP waited for Carpenter using an airplane and troopers stationed strategically along the highway. Soon enough, Carpenter led troopers on a chase captured on surveillance camera. At one point during the pursuit, Carpenter headed south in the northbound lanes and later smashed the cycle's front rim by hurling over a curb to avoid a tollbooth, according to police reports.

Carpenter outraced the troopers on his bike, but an airplane shadowed him to his apartment in the 15500 block of 105th Lane in south Miami-Dade County. When troopers arrived moments later, they saw Carpenter standing outside pretending to wash his car.

Carpenter denied being the motorcyclist at first, but it appears his pooch gave him up.

The dog came up to a window, moved a vertical blind and barked at the troopers outside, a report said. A trooper peeked inside Carpenter's bedroom and saw the motorcycle.

Also inside the bedroom: Carpenter's application for the FHP.

Police charged Carpenter with three counts of aggravated fleeing, two counts of aggravated assault on a law enforcement officer and one count of reckless driving. He also received a citation for bending back his license tag from plain sight.

[pantablo]

OK, do this...

File a paper to take the ticket by mail, not sure on the name of the paper but you can find it online.

Next, if it doesnt get dismissed that way, file a written appeal, then ask for the records of when the last time that road was surveyd for speed with the necissary info along with that. Also ask to see the ticketing officers printout from his radar gun, also ask to find out when the last time his gun was calibrated.

My moms got some hookups so let me know if you need any more info, ill get you all the legal papers I can.

thats a Trial by Declaration. IF you lose that, you can ask for a Trial de Novo (new trial). Filling out the Trial by Declaration can be tricky (to get right) so I highly suggest you go to ticketassassin.com and pay the $25 donation for his highly regarded (cut and paste) information. I'm waiting on my 71 in a 50 ticket resolution now.

the kicker is...if you go for a new trial everythign from the declaration is void and it truly is a new trial so you can still ask for traffic shool. My opinion is that its worth trying to get out of the ticket and save the traffic school for another day...

[Blazinjr]

just go steal the sign, and be like there was no sign......

Just what I was thinking.  It worked for my friend once before.  Just don't get caught.   Once it is down take some photos and pics.

['04gs500f]

OK, do this...

File a paper to take the ticket by mail, not sure on the name of the paper but you can find it online.

Next, if it doesnt get dismissed that way, file a written appeal, then ask for the records of when the last time that road was surveyd for speed with the necissary info along with that. Also ask to see the ticketing officers printout from his radar gun, also ask to find out when the last time his gun was calibrated.

My moms got some hookups so let me know if you need any more info, ill get you all the legal papers I can.

thats a Trial by Declaration. IF you lose that, you can ask for a Trial de Novo (new trial). Filling out the Trial by Declaration can be tricky (to get right) so I highly suggest you go to ticketassassin.com and pay the $25 donation for his highly regarded (cut and paste) information. I'm waiting on my 71 in a 50 ticket resolution now.

the kicker is...if you go for a new trial everythign from the declaration is void and it truly is a new trial so you can still ask for traffic shool. My opinion is that its worth trying to get out of the ticket and save the traffic school for another day...

thats for CA though..

[Altruism111]

OK, do this...

File a paper to take the ticket by mail, not sure on the name of the paper but you can find it online.

Next, if it doesnt get dismissed that way, file a written appeal, then ask for the records of when the last time that road was surveyd for speed with the necissary info along with that. Also ask to see the ticketing officers printout from his radar gun, also ask to find out when the last time his gun was calibrated.

My moms got some hookups so let me know if you need any more info, ill get you all the legal papers I can.

thats a Trial by Declaration. IF you lose that, you can ask for a Trial de Novo (new trial). Filling out the Trial by Declaration can be tricky (to get right) so I highly suggest you go to ticketassassin.com and pay the $25 donation for his highly regarded (cut and paste) information. I'm waiting on my 71 in a 50 ticket resolution now.

the kicker is...if you go for a new trial everythign from the declaration is void and it truly is a new trial so you can still ask for traffic shool. My opinion is that its worth trying to get out of the ticket and save the traffic school for another day...

thats for CA though..

Of course you could do all that. But then you would have to miss work and school. Is that really worth it? You might spend more money trying to fight it.

[pantablo]

thats for CA though..

true, but I was answering Daniely's reply, asking for the name of the written trial-I know he's also in CA. I hope Ticketassassin could help others but its more likely a CA thing... :dunno:

[cummuterguy]

i appreciate the help, but there is no winning when i was doing 60 in a 25 WITH a posted speed limit sign.

So if i pay the ticket and opt for the dumb corse do i have to show up to court for any reason???

No, you don't have to show up in court if you do that. I would suggest that you this method. You can use the "driver improvement" school 5 times in your life if need be. (edit.... this is for florida, where we both are, don't know about other states)
This ticket is a good one to use it for, cause that's a 4 point ticket. it's also an insurance killer, especially at your age.

There's planty of 'comedy traffic schools' around that make it almost fun to take the class anyway.

Im my humble opinion, trying to take the ticket to court and fight it won't be very easy. Even though judges aren't supposed to be biased, with all the media bombardment towards young male sportbike riders may make you guilty by association, then not only do you get the points and the fine, you may also have to pay court costs, and get assigned to take some type of safety course anyway, without the benefit of losing the points.

Court is always a gamble, especially when it comes to traffic court and misdemeanors, since it based soley upon the judge, and if the guy before you pisses off the judge... you get whacked.

[Altruism111]

There's planty of 'comedy traffic schools' around that make it almost fun to take the class anyway.

I did not laugh at all when I had to go to the "Comedy Traffic School" it still sux!!  :nana:

[Jake D]

My advice is to hire a lawyer.  It will pay off in the long run.

[raylarrabee]

My advice is to hire a lawyer.  It will pay off in the long run.

ditto (although I just finished law school, so I'm biased   )

[cummuterguy]

There's planty of 'comedy traffic schools' around that make it almost fun to take the class anyway.

I did not laugh at all when I had to go to the "Comedy Traffic School" it still sux!!  :nana:

It's still better than the regular one, at least they hold them in a restaraunt, so you can eat and basically ignore the guy.

[Cal Price]

60 in a 25, my instinct would be "Pay up and look big" Over here if you go to court you may get off scott-free but if you don't the court will add a hefty premium, basically for wasting their time.

Most of us do it from time to time, I know I do.  The current road safety campaign here is....Hit a child at 30, 80% chance child lives, hit a child at 40, 80% chance child dies. Lets keep the thrills for the open twistees and leave the neighborhoods alone ? ? ?

[That guy]

60 in a 25, my instinct would be "Pay up and look big" Over here if you go to court you may get off scott-free but if you don't the court will add a hefty premium, basically for wasting their time.

Most of us do it from time to time, I know I do.  The current road safety campaign here is....Hit a child at 30, 80% chance child lives, hit a child at 40, 80% chance child dies. Lets keep the thrills for the open twistees and leave the neighborhoods alone ? ? ?

Good call. My 0.02, go to court. Plead not guilty. Tell him you werent aware of the sign posted and admit to your fault. You will go to 8hr traffic school and pay your fine. The end. What if you do it again? you go and ask to get it dropped to a level 2 infraction (this is how its done in CA) and then if the judge is cool he sends you off to 16hrs of traffic school and you pay your fine. No points on the record-YAY.

['04gs500f]

im just going to do the class and pay the fine, as for saving the speed for the track thats true etc etc, but i mean this was a wide turn with NO sideroads at all IE no one could possibly pull out in front of my unless they hopped the tree filled median. so really only person i put at risk in taking that specific corner that fast was myself since no one was driving around me and there are no sideroads or even sidewalks on that corner

but im at fault and if the state wants to bend me over the coffee table to administer my punishment  then so be it.