An answer to many questions?

['04gs500f]

http://www.intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html

due to the nature of this thread...

enter, Roadstergal.... :lol:

[TheGoodGuy]

i read that site before.. lots of things makes total sense.

[Blueknyt]

This is so not a new concept, while rude in some respects, there is truth to it.

HOWEVER


as with all rules, there are exceptions as well as the relativity to each on how it is interpreted BY each person.

Man, though advanced in many ways, is still an animal that has not been fully understood.

i'll leave it at that

[Anonymous]

How true...

I went into a LOT of that (motivation of men and women) in my "sexes aren't equal" posts.  I said it differently but the jist is the same.

Women just CAN'T seem to understand the different motivations.  I guess it's a flaw in their brains, incapable of understanding (or simply denying) some things.

I'd bet on outright denying (lying) about their motivation.

Just another thing they lie about.

[SuZuki10]

Look who's back...


I guess just to pat yourself on the back, huh?

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"I went into a LOT of that (motivation of men and women) in my "sexes aren't equal" posts. I said it differently but the jist is the same. "-Joerocker

['04gs500f]

I hardly agree with everything said on that website, but I have been an intellectual whore many times and been very close to a cuddle Buddha Loves You once or twice...

[Roadstergal]

An intellectual whore should at least know that "criteria" is the plural of "criterion."   :lol:   Using big and/or Latinate words when you only vaguely know what they mean is a sure sign of trying to make something with absolutely no factual basis sound credible... not unlike a certain ex-board member.

[RVertigo]

How true...

I thought you left...   :nana:

[RVertigo]

"criteria" is the plural of "criterion."

This was the clincher for me:  "Even Nietzsche knew this."   :lol:

I love when people quote good old Freddy...   :lol:

['04gs500f]

An intellectual whore should at least know that "criteria" is the plural of "criterion."   :lol:   Using big and/or Latinate words when you only vaguely know what they mean is a sure sign of trying to make something with absolutely no factual basis sound credible... not unlike a certain ex-board member.

factual basis set aside, many of us find a good amount of what was written in that web page to be very true

['04gs500f]

An intellectual whore should at least know that "criteria" is the plural of "criterion."   :lol:   Using big and/or Latinate words when you only vaguely know what they mean is a sure sign of trying to make something with absolutely no factual basis sound credible... not unlike a certain ex-board member.

factual basis set aside, many of us find a good amount of what was written in that web page to be very true

based on experience that is....

[Roadstergal]

many of us

Who?   :lol:  

['04gs500f]

many of us

Who?   :lol:  

How true...

I went into a LOT of that (motivation of men and women) in my "sexes aren't equal" posts.  I said it differently but the jist is the same.

Women just CAN'T seem to understand the different motivations.  I guess it's a flaw in their brains, incapable of understanding (or simply denying) some things.

I'd bet on outright denying (lying) about their motivation.

Just another thing they lie about.

This is so not a new concept, while rude in some respects, there is truth to it.

HOWEVER


as with all rules, there are exceptions as well as the relativity to each on how it is interpreted BY each person.

Man, though advanced in many ways, is still an animal that has not been fully understood.

i'll leave it at that

i read that site before.. lots of things makes total sense.

 :dunno:

['04gs500f]

many of us

Who?   :lol:  

anyway. its not to start a war with you, like i said, i find many of the things that guy mentions to be self evident.

I obviously don't believe in him when he states that 99.999% of women are bitches etc etc, there are a good number of things that are overblown

[indestructibleman]

it's really difficult to define what you really want.

at some level, i want to have sex with any woman i meet who's at least a 6 or above on a 1-10 scale of physical/basic personality attractiveness.

that said, given the chance, there's a large number of those girls i wouldn't choose to sleep with, because i know that that's not what i REALLY want.

sex is just one part (though an important one) of a really big need that's largely emotional.

if one of my physically attractive female friends were to offer me sex, i'd probably do it.  but if i did it, the decision would be largely because of a hope that this could lead to a long-relationship.

so, basically, my sex drive is a huge factor in my life, but ultimately my emotional needs are greater.  as a rational being, i can weigh the one against the other and will ultimately tailor my behavior in an attempt to fulfill both, but with greater importance given to emotions.

random sex can fulfill my sex needs (however briefly), but doesn't do much for my emotional needs (and can really undermine them).  a good relationship can fulfill both.  it seems obvious to me that i should be putting my effort into seeking a relationship rather than flings.

some people (men and women both) seem to be pretty good at separating their sexual and emotional needs.  personally, i've found that that doesn't work very well for me.

i can't talk for guys in general.  i can only talk for me, but i must assume that deep down we're all pretty much the same.

so, to assess what i skimmed of the linked article, there are a lot of truths there, but i think that the conclusions are flawed.
they are adding 2 and x and getting 4, because deep down the believe (and just assume) that x must equal 2.

they are seeking simple explanations for very complex phenomenon.  as such, there's a universe of factors they don't take into account.


cheers,
will

['04gs500f]

well said

[Roadstergal]

Ach, when three people count as 'many'...  :lol: And I am using the loosest of definitions of 'people' possible in order to make it three rather than two.  Anyhoo, as Indestructibleman said, there is a thread or two of truth - but when you try to make a sheet set, comforter, bike cover, and area rug with only a thread or two of truth, you end up with a lot of BS gluing it all together.  I've seen gender analysis with a lot more truth and a lot less BS that's a lot more worth one's time to read.

[CasiUSA]

Women just CAN'T seem to understand the different motivations.  I guess it's a flaw in their brains, incapable of understanding (or simply denying) some things.

I'd bet on outright denying (lying) about their motivation.

Just another thing they lie about.

aaah, the battle cry of the "man" who probably couldn't get a girl's number from a caller ID.....

zzzinnggg.... :nana:

[Anonymous]

OK, here is the TRUTH...

Men want to have sex with ALL the women we find attractive.  If we had our way we would walk down the street, pick one, and have her right there.  The streets would have little "shacks" with a matress.  Second best would be owning a harem where we could choose between several women to keep the variety up.  Second to LAST is getting married and having ONE woman as much as we want whenever we want.  Last is being single and having to find a girl to have sex with at a club, or whatever, and only suceeding ocassionally.

How much money do you guys have to spend to get laid?  A bunch!  Women are NOT cheap!

Men ONLY care about the "conclusion of the act".  Period.    We're programmed to "pass our seed".  Orgasm is our goal.  Why do you think ALL men masterbate?   Yes, ALL.  We do all that other crap (cuddle, etc.) to keep the woman happy.  If we lived in our perfect world and could get any woman we wanted any time, we wouldn't THINK about doing that!

Ideally a perfect life for a man is to hang out with his friends (guys), do manly things, race, drink, fight, etc., and then grab a woman to have sex with when the urge arises.

A woman NEEDS to have a child.  It's a part of them as strong as a man wanting to screw women.  She wants to have the "alpha" males baby.  Or as close as she thinks she can get.

Marriage was invented for WOMEN.  Not for men.  A woman NEEDS a man to help her raise her child.  A woman has been genetically engineered to also enjoy sex because it would be pretty stupid if she didn't since she needs to have sex with her man constantly to keep him interested.  You see, a man can be bought.  If a woman has sex with him whenever he wants, he'll be more likely stay.  If she doesn't, he'll leave and then she's stuck.

This is just the way it is people.

Now, modern society has thrown a wrench in the works.  NOW a woman doesn't need a man to survive, there are programs to help her, she can have enough money to not need a man, etc.  All this has done is confuse things and people.  BUT we still have the programming of millions of years.

[CasiUSA]

hmmm... sounds like virgin-talk to me....