What the f%$k - my bike wont shift into neutral now....

[TheGoodGuy]

I had no oil the other night, read teh link below. I filled it back up 1.3/4 quarts and its full. I must have ridden teh last time with 'low oil'.
Old thread:
http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20044

Anyway the gear shift smoothly when i am running, but i am UNABLE to shift to neutral unless i shut off the bike. I cant go from first to neutral (it wont move up) or from 2nd to neutral with a tap.
I can roll the bike a bit (when in first), it will shift up, but only into 2nd not first. I have tried whacking it real hard when the engine is on, and it wont shift into neutral. However it will shift into neutral once you turn it off - and it does so real easy.

did i f%$k something up? I have to figure out how its losing oil. I see fumes at times when i am at a stop light, but i cant figure where from (comes from the front area) and it has a weird oil burning / gasket smell.

I will see what i can figure out tommorow before my afternoon ride to Malibu.

[RVertigo]

Can you shift to N when you're rolling to a stop?

[banner]

okay that sounds kinda familiar....

If your oil smells gasoliney when cold then you have a gas leakage problem....

I had this occur and the gasoline when it got hot was turning into vapor and lots of vapor was coming out. This would kill the lubrication properties and possible make the bike eat more oil with time...

[TheGoodGuy]

Can you shift to N when you're rolling to a stop?

nope... it wont move up from first, from second it goes straight to first.. its like nutral isnt there when the engine is running.

[The Buddha]

Yea ... rock the bike back and forth, back more than forward ... that rolling forward only works in some rare cases, somehow they like to shift better when reversed ...
Cool.
Srinath.

[gazingwa]

make sure your clutch is adjusted

[gsJack]

Had that problem myself recently, Manjul.  After an oil change it didn't wan't to go into neutral when stopped.  Jumped up and down past neutral when shifted. Worst when engine was hot.  I noticed the oil was about half a pint over full and let it go that way.  Now 2k miles past that oil change and the oil level is down to the full mark and the problem is gone.  Seems like being a bit over full caused the problem.   :dunno:   Is your oil level a bit high after you added the 1 3/4 quarts?  

Seems your oil leak is on the front of the engine somewhere and you are smelling the oil burning off the exhaust pipes.  Only had oil leak 3 places on the front of my GS500s in over 100k miles.  The valve cover, the tach drive cable connection, and the oil filter cover when I pinched the gasket a bit once.  In all three cases I could smell the oil burning off the exhaust pipes.

Good luck with your problems.  

[Jared]

Yeah Jack is right... too much oil can make it difficult to get into nuetral.....

Why...I can't remember...but I remember  noticing the same "problem" awhile back on a project bike ( I had overfilled the oil after the oil change...).

After I got the oil level right it seemed to be fixed....

[Bob Broussard]

It's a clutch issue. It could have gotten hot enough to warp the plates just enough to not release completely. An adjustment might help.
Switching oil brands and types can help or hurt the situation.
When I run Motul semi-synth the clutch is more tempermental than when I run the full-synth.
If it doesn't improve with a oil change or adjustment, it might need a fresh set of plates. :dunno: