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Grrrr .... I hate shoei ...

Started by The Buddha, August 29, 2005, 07:10:20 AM

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pandy

Why aren't you "allowed"!? to have a bike? Boyfriend afraid you'll ride better than he? :P :mrgreen:
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

slippy_01

He's afraid I'll die... frankly, I understand. But one of these days I'll be riding a *PURPLE* one (and yes - most likely better than him). "Woo Hoo!"
Boyfriend: 1996 gs500, Latent Blue, 7300 miles, Never Dropped.... Na Na Na Na Na  :nana:

Me: Not allowed to have a bike!

pandy

We're ALL going to die! ;)

Put your foot down. Tell him you're going to get a PURPLE GS *NOW*!

We won't tell him that the purple ones are the fastest. ;)
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

70 Cam Guy

Don't some helmets have swappable cheek pieces?

Did you fail to notice your fit problem when you were walking around the store wearing the helmet?  15 minutes minimum to be sure there's no pressure points or funny fits

I fail to see how this has anything to do with Shoei
Andy

The Buddha

Quote from: 70 Cam GuyDon't some helmets have swappable cheek pieces?

Did you fail to notice your fit problem when you were walking around the store wearing the helmet?  15 minutes minimum to be sure there's no pressure points or funny fits

I fail to see how this has anything to do with Shoei

Yea Yea Yea ... OK fine I got that helmet as part of some bike I was buying ... yea Fine whatever ... looking a gift horse in the mouth ... but the mouth is trying to bite my cheeks off ... Its got everything to do with shoeii ... they are uncomfortable, and most likely people are buying into the hype or they want that extra protection because they think they are soooo insanely cool and such high performance when riding that they must have that extra protection ... Basically statistically, 99.9999% of people will never need a shoeii on the street - just anecdotal evidence from my past ... and its down right painful all of the time. BTW it seems to be breaking in a bit, my cheeks hurt a shade less today inspite of being chewed raw, but it was a shorter run today ... anyway its the design that is geared to be super super super safe and very very very uncomfortable.
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deano

I think they are over rated.  I live in Australia and purchased a Shark RSF2 Race (Nexus) in white two days ago.  Great fit, looks good, light weight and has fantastic air flow.  They are now available in the USA:

http://www.helmetharbor.com/estore/products.cfm?seriesid=Shark+RSF2+Race

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aplitz

Quote from: seshadri_srinathIts got everything to do with shoeii ... they are uncomfortable, and most likely people are buying into the hype

So a particular helmet doesn't fit your head and its Shoei's fault?  I have had many helmets and none fit me as well as my current Shoei RF-1000.  My last HJC felt like a bucket of cement lined with sandpaper, but really it just didn't fit my head right.  It sounds like some people just need to find one that works with their particular head shape and quit whining.

richard

I have a Shoeii helmet... I really like it.  it fits me much better than my old HJC did.  I didn't realize how much better until I'd worn the Shoeii for awhile and put the other one back on.

One thing about it, though, is it did take a couple weeks to really break it in.  I was a very tight fit initially, but now it's great.

Maybe if you give it a bit of time, you'll find it isn't as bad anymore... the padding breaks in to fit your face better, while still holding steady.

just my $.02
Richard

'96 GS500

Great news! I just saved a bundle on car insurance by switching to a motorcycle!

pandy

Quote from: richardMaybe if you give it a bit of time, you'll find it isn't as bad anymore... the padding breaks in to fit your face better, while still holding steady.just my $.02

Patience is one of Srinath's strong suits!  :thumb:

:lol:
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

RVertigo

Quote from: richardMaybe if you give it a bit of time, you'll find it isn't as bad anymore... the padding breaks in to fit your face better, while still holding steady.
Or he can stuff something in the helmet and let it pack out the padding...

Roadstergal

You know, none of the clothing at Casual Male, Big And Tall fits me.  Those bastards.

pandy

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Sounds as though it's time for a class-action suit! :P
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

RVertigo

I bet you could get a t-shirt and use it as a dress...

The Buddha

OK the whole point was ... the poor fit is in the design. BTW I found every damn helmet made (Tried HJC, KBC, Shoei RF 1000 and X-11, Arai quantum F, Scorpion, Bell and some more I dont remember and they all suck - the top of this pile is KBC and shark ... But none are as good as the Bieffe I gave to the guy that got my bike last week) The problem is cheek padding, excessive and crushing my cheeks into my teeth. They all are, and I believe they are all copying shoei. In any case, my real beef with shoei has now spread to all makes. Discomfort everyday isn't a worth while trade off IMHO for that one crash in 5 years (yea more like 10 yrs) that will need the 10% extra protection I'd get from a shoei or a copy cos they all are.
The same freaking Pepsi VS coke connundrum. Every store brand, no name cola is a coke wanna be. if you like pepsi ... buy pepsi, no store copies come close. BTW what if they stopped making Pepsi ...  :x  ... I want to find that dude that got my helmet and swap the new Shoei for that old bieffe ... OK fine breaking it in is an option ...  :lol:  :lol:  Yea 2 hours wont do is what I been told. 2 week minimum with 1 hour per day. OK I'll check back in in 2 weeks on this thread.
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Alphamazing

Personally, I love Shoei helmets. They are the most comfortable helmets on the market for me. They fit my head perfectly and don't press my cheeks in at all. I went helmet shopping for a long time, trying on every model of every brand, but I kept going back to Shoei. I've wear a size Small in Shoei's line. I've worn the Shoei RFR, as well as a Z-II, and I recently picked up my new RF-1000 on eBay for $242 shipped.

Bieffe, for me, is extremely painful to wear. In size small it is too big, but in extra small it squeezes my head so tight I need Advil after 5 minutes. Other brands either don't conform to my head shape as well as the Shoei's do, or the material quality isn't comfortable enough.
'05 DR-Z400SM (For Sale)
'04 GS500E (Sold)

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Quote from: aplitzIt sounds like some people just need to find one that works with their particular head shape and quit whining.

i agree.  i tried on tons of helmets for fit -- not by brand.  it just so happens that a shoei xxs fits me.
proud owner of an '89 gs500e

pantablo

Quote from: seshadri_srinath...Was glad it fit great ... and the freaking thing presses up against my cheeks and squishes it into my teeth,


... Horrendous design. .

uh, user error. try one on first next time... :roll:
Pablo-
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Quote from: makenzie71 on August 21, 2006, 09:47:40 PM...not like normal sex, either...like sex with chicks.

The Buddha

OK I didn't try one on ... yesterday I tried all of them (with the exception of AGV and bieffe) and they all suck. Yea I agree its now super super safe ... yea we bought ourselves a whole extra 1% extra safety Yipee yea  :o , and also got as a side benefit a 300% extra discomfort  :x . Yea they all now are copies of the shoei and they are are insanely painful. BTW scorpion has a liner we can get for $40, and I can use cheek pads off the XXL in a L helmet. I can also buy thinner cheek pads for a RF 1000 also $35 or so and fit that in the L, the rest ... You're screwed. BTW I may cram a well inflated wine bag in the Large RF 800 I got and compress its padding out to where it wont kill me. I got this free, and want to use it. It was perfect size for me, but cheek pads ... nope I cant use it that way. Bieffe used to make helmets that fit me like a glove ... 3 different models and nothing but prefect ... old pair of jeans fit. These fit like a pair of leather pants made for Axl Rose ... Heck even he looks like He in pain ... and may explain his high voice ...  :lol:  in the old days ... as well as the writhing moves he used to make.
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J-Double

+1 for scorpion. My only complaint is with all the vents open it can be noisey at higher speeds. Wait, did I say highter speeds?  :lol:

But that's nothing some ear plugs cannot cure.
My diatribe is over!

Alphamazing

One thing that I notably like about Shoei is the quality of build. They don't feel cheap or rickety. I tried on an Icon helmet recently and the air vents on it were cheap and seemed easily breakable. They were composed of thin, cheap feeling plastic on a weak hinge that was also notably cheaply made. Likewise on other low-cost models by other brands. Shoeis and Arais as well as a few others just have a high build quality.
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'04 GS500E (Sold)

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