getting !#@%# at the Pump

[RedShift]

Steam engines. Now there's an idea.

[RVertigo]

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Everything that burns is a finite resource...  Wood...  Coal...  Oil...  Natural Gas...

Other plant matter is slightly different.  Take Brazil and the use of Sugar Cane for ethanol fuel...

It's brilliant and it can't work here...  How do we farm?  Oil...  We run machines with oil...  We fertilize with oil... We kill bugs with oil...  We keep the products fresh with oil... We pack them in oil...

Manual labor is Brazil's oil.  But, the major difference is the pay...  No one could afford to eat, much less live, in the US on what they're paid.

We're pretty much f%&ked...  Go buy some guns and farmable land. :dunno:

[RVertigo]

Here's an article about Brazil's Sugar Gas...

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ethanol15jun15,0,3313642.story

Flex Fuel Cars will save us!!!  







Bah...  We're still f%&ked.  I'm buying a gun.

[RedShift]

Bah...  We're still f%&ked.  I'm buying a gun.

Don't give up on humanity now!!    

A challenge always brings out the best in us.  The best is yet to come. Have faith, hug the kids, keep your powder dry and locked up 'til ya need it.  Help is on the way, just not as fast as everyone wants.  

[RVertigo]

A challenge always brings out the best in us.

I guess you haven't been watching the news...

I'm being optimistic here...  

Challenge brings out the best in 60%...  The worst in 10%...  and the other 30% have no clue what to do, so they do nothing...  Leaving themselves out in the open for the worst of the 10%.

[scirocco93210]

$3.19 here in central Cali (Fresno county) for regular unleaded at the local Fastrip

[vfrocket]

Update:

regular unleaded has gone back down, it is at $2.88 a gallon now.

[Cal Price]

I don't think we quite need to go to the stockades yet, there may not be one simple alternative just around the corner but loads of small ones helping out, steam engines with modern day technology is not such a bizzare concept for static functions, workshops, factories, pumping etc and you could power them on wood which in not a finite thing, its a crop. hazel, chestnut, sycamore and ash grow really fast and have been "coppiced" as a crop for hundreds of years. Cooking-oil cars are not going to take over the world but the point of my co-workers business enterprise is that the catering industry has to pay to get rid of the used cooking oil, he takes it from them for free, filters it, adds 3% white spirit and presto! it's diesel.
The biggest point is that we have used it twice.
Every little helps said the old lady as she peed into the sea..........

Roy (Redshift) is right, it helps when you have a chippie, a chinese, an Indian, a Turkish Kebab, a Greek Kebab and a Ghurka as well as all the big chain catering concessions and franchises on every street, such is the nature of my small town.

[RedShift]

My moral from Cal's point: Every little bit helps, especially if we recycle or reuse energy.  

[Phaedrus]

Someone forwarded this to me in my email. haha. 'bout right!!

[RVertigo]

Take the other digits off and you almost have the GS...

$0 - $3 - $7 - $10 - $15...

[Slavik]

[RVertigo]

[Slavik]

well there is no way in this country we can use manual labor in place of electricity...and for whatever reason our electricity mainly comes from fossil fuels, so i don't think it a solution...i also don't think there is a good solution for US, other then tak the money we're going to spend on landing men on mars or whatever Bush's space exploration goal is and spend it on something usefull....who knows if some of bush's predecessors did that, we would have any problems in middle east right now (they would just be begging us for money, but that not as bad as being blown up by them)

[Phaedrus]

well there is no way in this country we can use manual labor in place of electricity...

Why can't we?  :dunno:

[Slavik]

first of all, I am sure there is somekind of union that would requer $35/hour as a base.....and even if it wasn't can you imagine how much manual effort it would take to satisfy the demand of US for fuel?trust me we can emply the whole mexico on this project and only get a tenth of what we need

[RVertigo]

well there is no way in this country we can use manual labor in place of electricity...

Why can't we?  :dunno:

Our economy and cost of living prohibits it...  Brazil has a TOTALLY different economy.

Manual laborers can make the equivalent to $5 a day and afford to live...  You can't live in $5 an hour in the states.

[banner]

woohooo...gas prices have plummeted
2.83


:x  :x

We gave this guy 8 years and hes doubled the gas prices......?

:x  :x  :x


I don't know...if lewinsky cooled off clintons lust for money....i would recommed we give the current administration a slew of mistresses

[RVertigo]

We gave this guy 8 years and hes doubled the gas prices......?

It has very little to do with "him."

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net

[Mk1inCali]

So what do you guys think?  Is that article accurate?  Is it way off?