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Started by aaronstj, September 23, 2005, 11:52:08 AM

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Is gravity a force?

Yes, gravity is defined as a force
17 (73.9%)
No, gravity is defined as acceleration
6 (26.1%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Voting closed: September 23, 2005, 11:52:08 AM

aaronstj

Me and Alphafire are having a, erm, friendly discussion as to the definition of gravity.  Your opinion?
1992 Blue Monday, Wileyco, lunchbox, 150/40/3/1, Srinath bars, progressives, fenderectomy

Borak: How come Ogg use one spear, Borak need three?
Ogg: Not spear, caveman.

Destro

Gravity is defined in meters per second squared which is acceleration.  Force is mass x acceleration, i.e. your weight is a force and it differs according to the acceleration (gravity) on the Earth versus the Moon, Jupiter, et. al.
-Shayne
'92 GS500
'00 YZF600R

Roadstergal

Gravity is a force that causes an acceleration.

Roadstergal

For the laity.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/glossary.html

Quotegravitational force: the weakest of the four fundamental forces of nature. Described by Newton's universal theory of gravity, and subsequently by Einstein's general relativity.

Jake D

I agree with RG.  But I'm a dim wit.
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Alphamazing

YES. Gravitational force is a force. Gravity is different though. There IS gravitational force (gravitation) but gravity is an acceleration. There must be differentiations between these!
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Destro

Even if she is wrong Jake you would agree with her  :roll: , get your bike running yet?

P.S. I believe she is right too, now that I think about it for a bit.
-Shayne
'92 GS500
'00 YZF600R

Roadstergal

Quote from: AlphaFire X5YES. Gravitational force is a force. Gravity is different though. There IS gravitational force (gravitation) but gravity is an acceleration. There must be differentiations between these!

Gravity is shorthand for gravitational force.  It causes an acceleration when it acts on a mass.  In the absence of another mass, there's still gravity, even though there's no acceleration.  Weight is what we typically use as the name for the acceleration produced by gravity when it acts on a mass.

aaronstj

Quote from: AlphaFire X5YES. Gravitational force is a force.
They're synonyms, dammit!
1992 Blue Monday, Wileyco, lunchbox, 150/40/3/1, Srinath bars, progressives, fenderectomy

Borak: How come Ogg use one spear, Borak need three?
Ogg: Not spear, caveman.

Alphamazing

No! Gravity is different from gravitational force...

That's it. I'm going to UT's physics department... I'm (hopefully) going to prove y'all wrong.

It is on.
'05 DR-Z400SM (For Sale)
'04 GS500E (Sold)

Holy crap it's the Wiki!
http://wiki.gstwins.com/

RVertigo


Roadstergal

Quote from: AlphaFire X5That's it. I'm going to UT's physics department... I'm (hopefully) going to prove y'all wrong.

Good luck. ;)

Math minor who is dating a PhD in physics...

Alphamazing

I'm studying mechanical engineering. It's all about physics. But seriously. There is a difference between the two words.
'05 DR-Z400SM (For Sale)
'04 GS500E (Sold)

Holy crap it's the Wiki!
http://wiki.gstwins.com/

RVertigo


Roadstergal

Print out the thread and take it with you...

RVertigo


Roadstergal

I had red hair in college, but not a pageboy.

RVertigo

Heh...

I'm still a total geek...  I don't just dress like it. :P

Alphamazing

Gravity and gravitation are different things. Gravity is an acceleration caused by gravitational force, but they are still seperate words defining two seperate things.

RG was right though, gravity is caused by gravitational force. However, gravity is an acceleration term, whereas the gravitational force (or gravitation) is a force unit.
'05 DR-Z400SM (For Sale)
'04 GS500E (Sold)

Holy crap it's the Wiki!
http://wiki.gstwins.com/

Jake D

Quote from: DestroEven if she is wrong Jake you would agree with her  :roll: , get your bike running yet?

P.S. I believe she is right too, now that I think about it for a bit.

RG is a cutie, but I met a girl last night at Blonde that stole the show. Yeah, my bike runs, but the oil presure is still low.   :x

And Gravitational force is force.  Gravity, when used in the context of acceleration, is also called falling.

So you're on a space station.  Your muscles atrophy and you wonder why.  You say, is it due to the lack of gravity?  Your muscles didn't go away because there was no acceleration.  There is plenty of that.  But no gravity.

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