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Just aced my MSF BRC course

Started by Neon01, September 26, 2005, 08:40:05 AM

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Neon01

Wasn't too bad, although I'll admit a bit tougher than I was expecting.  I bought my GS in early July and have been riding it once a week (the first few weeks receiving a bit of training from a friend who's been riding for years) since.  

Overall I thought the course was not terribly informative, but it REALLY drills into the important aspects of riding - risk mitigation, anticipating the unthinkable, having a strategy for how to address a problem.  Then again, I've been reading these forums and basic knowledge primers online for quite some time, so going into the class I'd consider myself more educated about riding than the average newbie.  For most it was probably a very useful course.  

The practice we received riding was invaluable in teaching me aspects of riding that I hadn't encountered on the road to date: slow speed manuevering, panic stopping, slowing in a turn.  

A very good course and highly recommended to all "on the fence" about taking it.  I'm going to recommend my friend take the BRCII class.  He's got his license but has never been properly trained.  

That card they give you doesn't hurt for insurance reduction purposes either!   :thumb:
'93 GS500E

TarzanBoy

BRC2?  Is that the experienced rider class? (ERC) ?

Neon01

From what my instructor told me, the BRC II is still a basic course taught to individuals seeking a motorcycle license, but have been riding for some time and know the essentials of a bike.  Its a single day as opposed to two, and they skip lessons such as clutch and throttle familiarization.
'93 GS500E

GeeP

Glad to hear you aced your test.  Now go practice in a parking lot, because you still don't know shaZam! about riding.  

Just like the MSF guys say:  When you leave  you're certified to practice, not go tooling down the highway at 95.   :)

Enjoy the new GS!   8)  :lol:
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Red '96
Black MK2 SV

Neon01

Quote from: GeePGlad to hear you aced your test.  Now go practice in a parking lot, because you still don't know shaZam! about riding.  

Just like the MSF guys say:  When you leave  you're certified to practice, not go tooling down the highway at 95.   :)

Enjoy the new GS!   8)  :lol:

Did I say I was planning on "tooling down the highway at 95"?   :roll:  No need to be a duck here, it was a simple post on my thoughts about the course.  Your condescending attitude immediately discredits you.
'93 GS500E

roguegeek

Uh oh. Sensing hostility. We're all peace, love, butterflies, and taffy! DAMNIT!!!

GeeP actually is correct. I knew absolutely duck after I went through the MSF course. After you get more experience under your belt, you'll see. As for the classroom exercises, I actually thought they were just as helpful, if not more helpful than the hands on part of the course. The things they taught in the classroom are skills you can apply to driving in a car as well as riding a bike. Have fun. :thumb:
Rich - Project: Rich
2005 Honda S2000 | 2006 Honda CBR600RR | 1997 Suzuki GS500E (sold)

Narcissus

GeeP was just being sarcastic lol, no need to take offense  :mrgreen:  Your big words confuse me though lol... I agree though the course is good at teaching clutch control and low speed manouvers but thats about it, I just went out on the highway a couple days ago with my GS, even though I've had it for over a month. Thats not to say I haven't done 100+ km/h before... just without traffic.
04' GS500

GeeP

Quote from: Neon01Did I say I was planning on "tooling down the highway at 95"?   :roll:  No need to be a duck here, it was a simple post on my thoughts about the course.  Your condescending attitude immediately discredits you.

Dear sweet mother of safety valves.  You'll soon learn not to take much seriously on this BB.  :lol:    

Peace, love, butterflies, and umm...  Taffy.  Yeah....  :kiss:

How many smiley faces do I have to use in a post to convey humor anyhow?

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IS THIS BETTER?

On another subject, I agree completely with your assessment of the MSF course.  Which is why I made the off-color remark.   :dunno:
Every zero you add to the tolerance adds a zero to the price.

If the product "fails" will the product liability insurance pay for the "failure" until it turns 18?

Red '96
Black MK2 SV

Neon01

My mistake, must have misinterpreted.  I know I'm a beginner, and I do ride accordingly.  I'll learn the ways of the board soon enough  :cheers:
'93 GS500E

88gta

Congrats on passing the course, I enjoyed it myself. Am considering taking it again with my wife next spring just to show her support.

pandy

Quote from: 88gtaCongrats on passing the course, I enjoyed it myself. Am considering taking it again with my wife next spring just to show her support.

Yes, congrats on passing, Neon01, and 88gta, YOU RAWK for wanting to do this to support your wife!!!!!  :thumb:
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

Phaedrus

GSTWINS PRIMER 101

A Skit

Newbie 1: "Hey, I would like to learn about motorcycle riding. Where do I start?"

Group (in unison): "Take the MSF course!! It will teach you extremely important stuff, and only squids skip the course!!"

Newbie 2: "Hey, I took, past, and aced the MSF course!"

Group (in unison): You still don't know anything about riding, squid! Go riding in a parking lot!

Newbie 1: So if I go riding in a parking lot, will that teach me about riding?

Group: (in unison): No, that would make you a squid! Go take the MSF course!! and wear your gear!!

GStwins.com is an excellent, EXCELLENT forum for sure. It is definitely my favorite. And the members here are all wonderful and helpful in their own way...you just gotta learn how to interpret it ;)

Good job on your pursuit of knowledge and on doing so well on the course.  :thumb:
Richard died in a motorcycle accident that was at no fault of his own.  We lost a good friend and good member of this board.  Though Rich may be gone, his legacy will live on here.

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pandy

Quote from: PhaedrusGStwins.com is an excellent, EXCELLENT forum for sure. It is definitely my favorite. And the members here are all wonderful and helpful in their own way...you just gotta learn how to interpret it ;)

I'm sensing some negative energy from you today, Phaedrus. ;)

:lol:
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

Phaedrus

Hah, ya, I'm grumpy today. I'm on an 8 day stretch of working and it's making me easily irritable.  :x

I'm usually sweet, fun loving, and eatin' taffy.  :P
Richard died in a motorcycle accident that was at no fault of his own.  We lost a good friend and good member of this board.  Though Rich may be gone, his legacy will live on here.

Photos from the June '06 Northeast GStwin Meet

pandy

Quote from: PhaedrusI'm usually sweet, fun loving, and eatin' taffy.  :P

You and Srinath. :P

How much longer to you have to go 'til you get a break??? :o
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

maxwellf

I also took the MSF course, passed, took the DMV written, and got a license.  In no way did I feel like I was ready for the road.  After researching, it seemed the GS500 was a great bike to begin with.  I found a private instructor, and went out multiple times prior to hitting the road.  I've gotten a lot more comfortable, but I've got a long way to go. I highly suggest finding a trainer to help you get more time on the basics.

Alphamazing

You may feel as if you're fairly confident, but you have only begun to scratch the surface. There is much much more that you can learn, much of it unable to be put into words. Experience plays a big part in it. There are some things you just need to learn with time.

There is always more to learn.
'05 DR-Z400SM (For Sale)
'04 GS500E (Sold)

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http://wiki.gstwins.com/

maxwellf

I totally agree, I would compare it to golf.  It takes a long time to master the game, and only a few very talented people really excel.  The more I ride, the more I admire those who are so skilled.

Neon01

Quote from: maxwellfI also took the MSF course, passed, took the DMV written, and got a license.  In no way did I feel like I was ready for the road.  After researching, it seemed the GS500 was a great bike to begin with.  I found a private instructor, and went out multiple times prior to hitting the road.  I've gotten a lot more comfortable, but I've got a long way to go. I highly suggest finding a trainer to help you get more time on the basics.

I'm getting the impression not everyone read the entirety of my initial post.  I've actually been riding for about 3 months now, so I think I do have the basics pretty well in hand.  Before I get even more people telling me how little I actually know, I will concede that you are all correct - 3 months isn't much time to gain solid experience, especially when I received proper training only recently.  So please, just give the newbie a rest.  I have a thorough respect for the bike and the road, thanks, and I still ride every time as if it's my first.
'93 GS500E

pandy

Quote from: Neon01I've actually been riding for about 3 months now, so I think I do have the basics pretty well in hand.  Before I get even more people telling me how little I actually know,

Well, HECK! Time to get a 'busa!  :thumb:
'06 SV650s (1 past Gixxer; 3 past GS500s)
I get blamed for EVERYTHING around here!
:woohoo:

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