what is this bike? real or scam?

[Stephen072774]

good example of why not to buy a bike sight unseen...  I can't believe people do it.

[Badger]

And report the seller to ebay.

Hrm.  Did he actually do anything wrong?  Unethical perhaps, misleading definitely, but fraudulent?  I'm not sure.  I don't think eBay has a "total disclosure" requirement, so as long as he didn't fraudulently misrepresent the item, I don't think eBay would care.

Now, if he had said "Never been down," that would be something else entirely.

[jomei]

It was misrepresented. He never posted the VIN, and the product was misnamed and misrepresented when it was clear he knew that it was not a GSX-R. He purchased parts FOR the bike listed as GS500 parts, and he purchased the offending GSX-R decals he used to misrepresent the product from ebay as well.

"... and if you want I can take a dump in a bag and mark it gauranteed, but what then did you really buy? A gauranteed piece of shaZam!."

[bargovic]

I can take a dump in a bag and mark it gauranteed, but what then did you really buy? A gauranteed piece of shaZam!."

LOL

Hrm. Did he actually do anything wrong? Unethical perhaps, misleading definitely, but fraudulent? I'm not sure. I don't think eBay has a "total disclosure" requirement, so as long as he didn't fraudulently misrepresent the item, I don't think eBay would care.

The item is being miss represented, or falsely listed.  I guess its open to opinion/interpretation.. but he has it listed as:
2004  Suzuki  :  GSX-R GS500F   
gs500f carbon gixxer edtion

Which there is no such edition from the manufacture, only from his garage.

[Blueknyt]

it is fruadulant, GSXR 500 twin does not exist. suzuki didnt even make one.  they have made GSX's of smaller displacment. .

here is what i wrote to him:

just to help clear up a missunderstanding and possible source of headache for you. anyone bidding on this bike can back out of paying leagely as its not whats discribed. suzuki didnt make a GSXR 500 2 cyl, GSX designates a 4 valve per cyl head, this bike uses a 2 valve setup, the 04-05 use GSXR like fairings, but other then brake upgrade,oil cooler and some engine electronic stuff, its a GS500E with skins. looks good though. should you keep it check out www.gstwin.com   lots of good info there


his responce:

this bike is sold and i am canceling all bids on it. it was paid for when picked up 3 days ago 4100 cash. ty very much


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[bargovic]

who in their right mind would pay $4100 for that hump of junk!

[Badger]

The item is being miss represented, or falsely listed.  I guess its open to opinion/interpretation.. but he has it listed as:
2004  Suzuki  :  GSX-R GS500F   
gs500f carbon gixxer edtion

Which there is no such edition from the manufacture, only from his garage.

I'm not a lawyer, but I think you'd have a hard time getting this classified as fraud.

2004 [year] Sukuki [manufacturer] : GSX-R [stickers] GS500F [model]

To my knowledge, Suzuki has never made a model called a "gixxer" either.  That doesn't stop people from representing their GSX-R's that way.  :dunno:

[bargovic]

My original point was that he listed it that way in order to mislead someone
into buying it.  He's intentially trying to make it look like someone is getting
a GSX-R for the GS price. He knows what it really is, and he knows how hes clouding his wording to take advantage of someone who cant see through it.  

You can argue for or against the seller commiting fraud.. but the point was is hes a retard.

[My Name Is Dave]

He seems to like buying Suzuki parts...

Main example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35583&item=4569184686

All auctions: http://feedback.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=illusions023&iid=4577554812&frm=284

[bargovic]

LOL everything on the bike was bought on e-bay.

But, oh no he bought a sander and air wrench.. what other monsters will he make.  This guy reminds me of a video i saw.. where some guy had a mustang with a vinyl chineese symbol on his back window and a type R badge on the side.

do people like this guy have to much time.. or to much money?

[Badger]

but the point was is hes a retard.

+1    

But...a retard that got $4100 for that POS.  

[bargovic]

But...a retard that got $4100 for that POS.  

very true!

[My Name Is Dave]

LOL everything on the bike was bought on e-bay.

But, oh no he bought a sander and air wrench.. what other monsters will he make.  This guy reminds me of a video i saw.. where some guy had a mustang with a vinyl chineese symbol on his back window and a type R badge on the side.

do people like this guy have to much time.. or to much money?

There was a clip at the end of Mayhem 3000 with them f%$king with this brother with an R sticker and shaZam! on his Mustang. Asking if it had rotary and shaZam!, and he's all "Yeah, it's got all that." Pretty funny.

[pandy]

But...a retard that got $4100 for that POS.  

very true!

So he CLAIMS!   :lol:

[My Name Is Dave]

I think it was $3500 at auction end.

[bargovic]

Mayhem 3000 was the vid.. . yeah it was a rotary mustang with headers! lol

[NiceGuysFinishLast]

Hi, you don't know me, but this note is in regards to the motorcycle you just purchased, ebay item number 4577554812, I just wanted to let you know that myself, and others have a few suspicions about this bike. The bike is actually a GS500F (do a google search), not a GSX500R (there is NO SUCH BIKE, check Suzuki's website), we believe the seller is trying to defraud you. If you would, spend a moment of your time and view the thread we posted about your bike, viewable at http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21349
no membership or signing up is necessary to view this post, only if you wish to reply. I highly reccommend that you view this post, and if you do, please take the momenet necessary to sign up and drop us a line to let us know how things go. If you need anything else, please feel free to contact me at gtg445y@mail.gatech.edu, as I rarely use my ebay account, or the email it is attached to.
Regards,

Nicholas Cosgrove
gtg445y@mail.gatech.edu
NicholasCosgrove@gmail.com

Sent that to the winning bidder, BEFORE I found out that the guy sold it to someone else and cancelled the winning bid... at least that might have done some good.. now some poor sap payed $600 MORE for it, and we have no way of letting them know they've been ripped... I mean.. CRAP, I could get a NEW '04 for about that price.... At least I tried..

[My Name Is Dave]

Mayhem 3000 was the vid.. . yeah it was a rotary mustang with headers! lol

Yeah, I knew there was another funny line. With headers. What a dork.

[RVertigo]

Just to add to the list...  Has one Bar-End, but not the other...  And no windscreen.

[leo]

his responce:

this bike is sold and i am canceling all bids on it. it was paid for when picked up 3 days ago 4100 cash. ty very much


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:dunno:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Somehow I just don't feel sorry for that person that bought it. How do you spend that much money and not research something? At least pick up a  Cycle Trader to get an idea. Hell I can't buy toilet paper without researching it first.

It reminds me of that one Jack in the Box commercial. "All I need is just one"