Impolite posters (davipu)

[dionysus]

That's what way of putting it.  Another way of putting it is, they're an extremist terrorist organization.

"Arson, property destruction, burglary, and theft are acceptable crimes when used for the animal cause." (Alex Pacheco, director of PETA at the time, and its co-founder, in 1989)

I love how often that quote is thrown around. Who know the story behind it? Who knows in what context it was said? who knows any damned thing about it other than a PETA founder said it? Yeah, didn't think so. I always like the quote from the current leader:

Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective. We ask nicely for years and get nothing. Someone makes a threat, and it works.

Which was in defense of the actions of another group. Blowing up a slaughter house is more effective that asking the owners to do something. But, PETA doesn't do it. Alex Pacheco was, is and always will be an extreamist in every sense of the word. He worked on ships that went around sinking whaling ships before he, and a large number of others, started PETA. He's suspected to be part of an organization that are on the terrorist list. How many people have they killed? None. Zero. They would ram ships in order to shink them, giving people plenty of time to grab a life jacket. None of these terrorists are wanted for murder or terrorism of any kind. They are wanted for vandalism, breaking and entery, theft, and so forth. Grouping them in with al Quida is just plain rediculous. Hell, even Alex isn't breaking any laws and is granted tax-exempt status and protection by the UN.

People like to do what they are used to doing, and they have the ignorant view that PETA wants to turn everyone into a vegan. PETA is a political organization. They don't blow things up, they don't kill people and they don't run around spraying people with blood or paint. They're members might, and some riders are 1%ers and squids. That obviously doesn't mean PETA condones it (they simply don't condemn it, grab a dictionary).

What PETA actually does is talk to ranchers, slaugher houses and fast food companies to have the lifestock treated better. Recently they've been tryinf to get another 1/2 square feet per chicken in slaugher houses. This will reduce the number of suicides and violent behavior of the chickens. They figure that will be enough to end the debeaking practices. They want uniform breading and size of poultry in order to be able to mechanize the butchering process. This makes the process less painful. Repeat after me: PETA is full of wimpy little pencil pushing WASPs, which is precisly why guys like Alex left long ago.

PETA isn't trying to outlaw eating meat and the majority of members eat meat. So enjoy your burger, and stop bitching about things you don't understand.

[RVertigo]

Not just a member of PETA, I'm also a member of PASTA.

People for the Adorning of STylish Animals.

[NightRyder]

Heh, that picture never gets old. It is soo true.

It is like arguing over religion or politics, in the end nothing happens.

EDIT: uh... right. PETA is ____. That is fine. It just poped into my mind when I wrote that.

Has anyone seen the Penn & Teller: Bullshit! ? They have an episode about PETA, not that I have seen that one. One day..

[Roadstergal]

I'm vegetarian.

[yamahonkawazuki]

Cuz davipu and most everyone on this board will help you out when you need it.
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When I broke a valve in my 02 GS last April due to a sticking bucket, davipu IM'd me right away offering a valve and buckets.  Not knowing what I needed I waited to reply till I tore down the engine a week or so later and then IM'd Dave back to see if he still had the extra parts.  He did and immediately mailed me an exhaust valve and 4 buckets and wanted no payment for them.  Just wanted to help a fellow GSer out.

First time I saw a post like TarzanBoy is complaining about from Dave, I clicked on his profile and on the list of his posts and read a few.  The pattern was clear and I've enjoyed davipu's posts ever since.    Dave readily admits when he's posting under the influence almost bragging about it.  Well, I know where he's coming from and have been there.

OK, time to vote-

davipu            

TarzanBoy         :dunno:

C'mon Tarzanboy, like JetSwing said  "can we all just get along?"

. or cant we all just get a bong, hes (davipu) kinda pissed me off in the past, but i just drank a lil more and forgot all about it lol, oh yeah, WELCOME BACK GSJACK WHERE YA BEEN HIDIN?

[Blingmasta]

No one else is going to say it, so I guess I will  :lol:

In between his drunken ramblings, he really knows what the hell is he talking about. I think people respect that, and that is why it is overlooked that he can be a complete jackass sometimes.

Does that make it right? Of course not, but since this is such an open forum, people are going to post whatever they want. I can be a complete jackass sometimes also.  :lol:

And there isn't anything stopping you from telling him to go f&^% himself, either. If it makes you feel better, tell him. No one is going to blame you.

I think what everyone is saying is to let it get to you. It isn't right, but it isn't really worth worrying about, either. What can be done about it?  :dunno:

This is basically the truest, most all encompassingly correct statement I have ever read on this thing called the internet.. Well played, Phaedrus.

[Phaedrus]

dionysus - Very well said. Since my GF is a vegetarian and a PETA member, and I am a good boyfriend   , I listen to her when she tells me about this and that. She has never tried to stop me from eating meat. And she has friends (and both of her sisters) that are PETA members and vegetarians. None of them are crazy, extremists. They are some of the most level headed people I know actually.

Blingmasta - Thanks. I am glad someone could read though my "spelling and tiping eras"  

Roadstergal - How long have you been vegetarian? Can I ask what your reasons are? Healthly diet? Activism? Just don't like meat? My GF stopped eating meat because she felt it was cruel to animals, but now swears by it for health reasons. We also have such an overwhelming amount of vegetarians at work (we only have about 400 employees) but our staff cafeteria ALWAYS has vegetarian alternatives.

[Roadstergal]

Since high school.  For ethical and environmental reasons.  I don't have a problem with other people eating meat, even though I wouldn't do it myself, but the high rate at which we eat it and the farming practices we've fallen into to feed that are good for neither the animals nor the people who eat them.

I have friends who used to live in Bakersfield, and they're now vegans after seeing what it was they were eating.

[Onlypastrana199]

<--- FARM KID


PETA can kiss my.....

[Roadstergal]

Former farm kid.  Corn and soy.  Michigan.

Sorry, you're not my type.

[Alphamazing]

I could easily go vegetarian if I didn't need all the protein. That, and I like bacon cheeseburgers too much. That's why I can't be Jewish either.

[ajgs500]

yeah but she is totally my type and completely hot!!!! :kiss:  :kiss:  :kiss:  :kiss:

[Roadstergal]

I could easily go vegetarian if I didn't need all the protein.

I get plenty of protein.

[Birdmove]

My daughter is a vegan, and my son a vegetarian.On a recent trip to Ithaca, NY, where my son attends college, we went to the Farm Animal Sanctuary at Watkins Glen.Its true our treatment of farm animals is pretty barbaric-i.e. "veal" lambs, crammming them into tiny spaces where they can hardly move etc. My wife and I are not quite vegetarian, but are working into it over time. I'm finding restaurants where the vegetarian or vegan food is so dam good, I don't miss meat at all-my favorite is a Jamaican/vegan place in Tacoma called Quickee Too.

[Onlypastrana199]

lol...corn and soy doesn't count , try having livestock. You talk about ethical treatment of animals but you refer to factory farms. I'm from a 1200 acre family farm. We don't push cows to produce gallons more than they should be, we dont use rBGH, Its farming the way it should be. We eat our own meat, not the shaZam! that is locked up in cages for their entire life.  PETA tries to get rid of that, but ends up hurting the entire farming industry. They're extremists....

[Alphamazing]

I could easily go vegetarian if I didn't need all the protein.

I get plenty of protein.

I need a lot more protein than you do.

[Roadstergal]

I need a lot more protein than you do.

I don't think I buy that.  

[Roadstergal]

corn and soy doesn't count

For what?

You talk about ethical treatment of animals but you refer to factory farms.

I'm very clear on that.

[Phaedrus]

Pastrami - I think farming the way you do it is fine. I see absolutely nothing wrong with eating meat, but some places (factory farms) are extremely cruel. Farms like yours are the heart of America, though.  

I could give up red meat pretty easily if it weren't for the occasional cheeseburger. But I would have an EXTREMELY difficult time giving up chicken, which is my favorite food.

[Alphamazing]

I need a lot more protein than you do.

I don't think I buy that.  

Psh. I'm a growing teenage boy who is trying to build muscle. I need a hell of a lot of protein.