READ THIS!!!

[Lukewarm Wilson]

I love it, thats brilliant and so true :lol:  :lol:  :lol:            

forgot to ask did you get to see the the guys expression when he saw it  

[JetSwing]

hahaha...did he take it off yet?

[porsche4786]

I'm not really against harley's, I wouldn't mind having one, but I probably wouldn't buy one till I'm older and going through my mid life crisis.

[Blazinjr]

I'm not really against harley's, I wouldn't mind having one, but I probably wouldn't buy one till I'm older and going through my mid life crisis.

I would not mind having one just to cruise around on but I would never buy one new.

If I would get one it would be a 1200 Sportster or a 883 converted to a 1200.  I don't really care for any of the others because of the price.  If price was not a worry then a Night Train or Duece would be my more expensive choices.

At higher RPM's my GS is almost as loud as my buddies 1200 custom with the SE pipes on it :dunno:

[daneilah]

Sure there are some inacurracies in the article, but these articles get written because there is some amount of truth to them.

I believe there should be noise laws for vehicles.  The modifications people make to bikes (and cars) to make them excessively loud do make them come across as look-at-me @ssholes.  Have you ever tried to ride behind one of those frickin' Harleys with the wicked pipes?  It's unbearable.

And hey, there are some bikers who hang around in groups and try to intimidate others.  We've all seen them.

And there's yahoos who do wheelies at 75 mph on the freeway.  And some  of them end up as road pizza.

There'll always be those who intentionally or inadvertently demean something good, and the rest of us suffer.

The writer is a bit ignorant of motorcycles.  But is he entirely wrong?

[porsche4786]

There are noise laws, around here, it's like 92 db? Something around there. My car is loud, and my neighbors always give me that look like I'm speeding, but it is below the legal limit.

Sure there are some inacurracies in the article, but these articles get written because there is some amount of truth to them.

I believe there should be noise laws for vehicles.  The modifications people make to bikes (and cars) to make them excessively loud do make them come across as look-at-me @ssholes.  Have you ever tried to ride behind one of those frickin' Harleys with the wicked pipes?  It's unbearable.

And hey, there are some bikers who hang around in groups and try to intimidate others.  We've all seen them.

And there's yahoos who do wheelies at 75 mph on the freeway.  And some  of them end up as road pizza.

There'll always be those who intentionally or inadvertently demean something good, and the rest of us suffer.

The writer is a bit ignorant of motorcycles.  But is he entirely wrong?

[500rider]

... The writer is a bit ignorant of motorcycles.  But is he entirely wrong?

I get your point but I think it's wrong because the writer is fostering ignorance and fear/hate towards bikers.  (Maybe hate is too strong but couldn't think of a word slightly less than hate.)  The writer dragged in all the typical stereotypes about bikers that doesn't hold true for the majority.  As if no-one in all of London has a loud pipe on his bike.  I'm sure they're all highly civilized tea-toddlers and all you in the US are outlaw hoodlums, raping and pillaging.

I don't particularily like loud pipes either, especially in my neighbourhood and after I've put the kids to bed.  Around here, all the teenagers want to drive honda civics with stove pipe exhausts.  Most of them sound like crap.  I can appreciate the sound of a well tuned machine with a custom exhaust though if not stupidly loud.  I have a Yosh pipe on my Katana and it's a little louder than I would actually like.  It does get attention but I try to keep it to a reasonable level when going through a subdivision.

Bikers are just like any group of people you can think of lumping together.  Doctors, lawyers, realestate agents (ugh), car salesmen, jews, hispanics, white guys etc.  ... some are idiots and some aren't.

Let's all go out and buy Segways!!  

[RVertigo]

Let's all go out and buy Segways!!  

As soon as they make one that goes 80 MPH, I'm all over it.

[davipu]

noise is enegry that could have been used to make power.

[Gisser]

There are noise laws, around here, it's like 92 db?

I think EPA mandates 85db measured at such&such a speed from such&such a distance.  Bear in mind, the decibel scale is exponential in which 10db represents an increase equal to 10X the intensity.  20db represents an increase of 100X the intensity.      The typical aftermarket pipe ranges from 102-to-108db.  Do the math and noiseoff.org has a point (that article, btw, wasn't meant to be fair & balanced, it was an advocacy piece).  Currently, enforcement is lax, but all EPA has to do is crack down with some stiff fines and they can change the sonic landscape.  I got hit with $300 worth of traffic violations last month, none of them speeding, and my behavior behind the wheel has vastly improved.