Pontiac GTO vs GS500e

[that_guy]

^If it was a 3800 with a 5spd and an open exhaust it's not exactly a "slow" car...lol.  Ungoverned I've seen a 3800 Firebird ('94) roll off 163mph.  Dyno'ed something like 228rwhp and 245lb/tq.  Crazy car...just an opened up intake, a full exhaust and the obvious chip...crazy car...

It's easy to get stupid fast times with CRX's and Si's.  Sure it's muscle car territory but you don't take into account that muscle cars weigh 4000lbs...a gutted CRX weighs 1750lbs.

However...no way a stock motor CRX ran a 13 pass.

yeah now that I look back it had a few more addons than previously mentioned.  I just hate for someone to think that 13.9 qualifies as fast..  It's not that fast.. slight comparison being All the available 600's out there on the roads running stock mid 10 1/4's

[SmartDrug]

You guys will love this :http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html

If you think 13.9 isn't fast consider this:
Aston Martin VANQUISH-  12.9 (1 second slower than Bond?) 
2006 Bentley Continental Flying Spur (twin-turbo W-12)- 13.1 (Less than one second slower than Paris Hilton)   
2002 BMW M5- 13.3 (over 400 hp!!)
1986 Buick Regal Grand National- 13.9 (the quintessential 1980's dragster)
1989 Ferrari Testarossa- 14.2 (slow?)

1991 Honda CRX Si 16.5- This is your stock 1/4 time as done by a professional driver, you've cut over 2.5 seconds off your 1/4 time, if that's not huge then consider this, cut another 2 seconds off and you're ready to beat a $750,000 supercar:

2003 Saleen S7 3.3 11.8


Something to consider, just because the archaic GS isn't fast by modern motorcycle standards doesn't at all mean that it isn't a goddamn rocketship by other standards.   

[oramac]

That_guy must've been on an 1/8th mile track  .  I had a buddy that always talked about his 76 cutlass beating my 99 Camaro.  Said it ran 12s with only exhaust and open element air filter. 










Then he said it was an 1/8th mile track 

[FearedGS500]

oh oh .. you forgot the import fans !! evo is 13.1 and WRX STi  is 13.0 !! ( and might i add cheaper then the ones you posted

[buzz]

I'm sure he jest. If not I have to call 

Here is a time slip of my old junk Civic. The times are 1/8th, but that coverts to about 13.9 in the 1/4. Yes, that was a Cobra in the other lane.   It later ran 8.59 which comes about to a 13.4. Sorry no time slip on that one.

It took a fair amount of nitrous, and gutting to pull that off.

[rtcpenguin]

I had a friend time my 0-60 time once with a stopwatch by gunning the bike to 60 and tapping the brake once I hit it. I pulled about a 4.25, but I'd guess the margin of error was around .25 seconds. I did dump out the clutch at around 6,000 to start though. The only performance mods I have are a K&N filter, re-jet and a couple lbs off with aftermarket gas cap and no fender.

[tussey]

I had a friend time my 0-60 time once with a stopwatch by gunning the bike to 60 and tapping the brake once I hit it. I pulled about a 4.25, but I'd guess the margin of error was around .25 seconds. I did dump out the clutch at around 6,000 to start though. The only performance mods I have are a K&N filter, re-jet and a couple lbs off with aftermarket gas cap and no fender.

wow. Isn't that dangerous? I mean can't your bike just peel out from underneath you or go sideways? 

[Phaedrus]

Goo too much higher than 6 grand when dumping your clutch and your front wheel will come up, likely. It's a nice squid trick but it is going to slow you down if your dragging.  I am thinking that is why he dumped the clutch at 6k, instead of higher.

[that_guy]

  my old POS

  my finished product.

im used to imports that run 11's and on good days run low 10's.  Neons, WRX's and lancers run 13's and 12's stock. 

[that_guy]

http://www.houston-imports.com/users/that_guy/crx/Fast-Turbo.avi

heres a vid of one of my friends cars.  It's me filming and one of my good friends tuning the car..  this car ended up making 762 Hp by the end of the day..

[SmartDrug]

13.9 is not fast at all really.  My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..

I don't think anyone is saying that you can't get a CRX to run a sub 12 second 1/4 mile, the fact of the matter is that it won't be even close to 13.2 with just an intake and an exhaust.   465 hp at the wheels is a different ballgame entirely, that's a damn fast car but on the opposite side of the coin, it's barely drivable (stripped interior, traction issues, reliability issues when you pull 400+ hp from a 1.6l engine, etc.).

[that_guy]

13.9 is not fast at all really.  My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..

I don't think anyone is saying that you can't get a CRX to run a sub 12 second 1/4 mile, the fact of the matter is that it won't be even close to 13.2 with just an intake and an exhaust.   465 hp at the wheels is a different ballgame entirely, that's a damn fast car but on the opposite side of the coin, it's barely drivable (stripped interior, traction issues, reliability issues when you pull 400+ hp from a 1.6l engine, etc.).

it was a daily driven street car.  now the video I posted represents what you are talking about.  My CRX had full interior and was prefectly streetable.  I did recant my original statement where I said "stock".  I guess we could go on about this all day.  I'd just love to see one of the 75+ HP gs's ive read about.  Whatever they did to get that much power gain would be awesome to re-create..

[SmartDrug]

Haha, fair enough.  I'm really curious about that GS555R, or that one mutant with the GSXR heads that has shown up on here a few times.

[that_guy]

was there any numbers for the GSXR frankentstein?

[budget speed demon]

Haha, fair enough.  I'm really curious about that GS555R, or that one mutant with the GSXR heads that has shown up on here a few times.

well I'm building a GS555R so maybe we'll find out. highlift cams, and all the goodies.
And from the sounds of it, it seems like dgyver is building a frankenGS with a gsxr head.
maybe we'll get some numbers in the not to distant future.

[monopoly]

13.9 is not fast at all really.  My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..

LOL a CRX with a Type-R B18c5 motor/tranny might run mid-high 13's but definately NOT a stock CRX buddy they run in the 16's...maybe even 17's.


As for street racing goes, The GTO will take the GS no problem...They are a heavier car but those LS1 motors are very strong and the power is de-tuned.

If you add a cold air intake and full exhuast to a newer GTO they run low 13's almost a second less than stock!

[monopoly]

13.9 is not fast at all really.  My old honda CRX ran 13.2s with intake and exhaust only..

I don't think anyone is saying that you can't get a CRX to run a sub 12 second 1/4 mile, the fact of the matter is that it won't be even close to 13.2 with just an intake and an exhaust.   465 hp at the wheels is a different ballgame entirely, that's a damn fast car but on the opposite side of the coin, it's barely drivable (stripped interior, traction issues, reliability issues when you pull 400+ hp from a 1.6l engine, etc.).

Theres a shop in toronto called Exotic touch designs that hold the Canadian CRX all motor setup record at 11 secs in the 1/4mile...mid you its not setup for street by any means tho

[Lukewarm Wilson]

Well I had 2 WRX's beat my GS my starts weren't good and it was close but I was beaten even if I had of got a good start 

[budget speed demon]

I destroyed a mustang on my vintage cb400f 
Does that count for anything? lol
kid didn't know how to drive though. it was all screeching tires and wheel spin.

[monopoly]

I destroyed a mustang on my vintage cb400f 
Does that count for anything? lol
kid didn't know how to drive though. it was all screeching tires and wheel spin.

Depends on the stang u raced...The small block 5.0L's can run anywhere from mid-low 14's stock to low 15's depending on there year. and same goes for the 4.6L