need help removing carb slider support

[Mandres]

I'm trying to disassemble/clean the carbs on my GS and I've hit a snag.  I can't get the slider support piece (bottom right corner of the pic) or the main jet out of the carb body.  Is there a trick to it?  The pieces are stuck tight and there's nothing to grab onto to force them out. Can anybody help 

[Egaeus]

Ummm... unless I'm mistaken, those look like the main jets and the pilot jets sitting on the bottom right of the picture on the newspaper. 

try http://www.mrcycles.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?category=Motorcycles&make=Suzuki&year=1999&fveh=2104 and select carburetor.  Maybe your calling it the wrong name?

[Mandres]

ehh, yea.  That's not a picture of my carb.  I just used it to show what the slider supports look like. I should have made that clear.  And you're right, the needle jet is what's giving me trouble.

This is getting really frustrating... I'm trying to follow the directions in the Haynes manual:

"unscrew and remove the main jet" - Check, the little brass main jet screwed right out
"with the main jet removed, the piston guide and needle jet can now be withdrawn through the top of the carburettor"

This is where it goes to shaZam!.  The piston guide (what a different tutorial called the "slider support") and needle jet are stuck tight.  There is nothing for a tool to grab onto to coax the assembly out of the carb body.  How can I get them out?

thx a bunch, I was starting to lose my mind

[GeeP]

Install the main jet about 1/2 to 3/4 of a turn and tap with a plastic hammer.  When the jet bottoms out, screw it all the way out and hit it again.  That will remove the main emulsion tube, #20 in this photo:

 

Do not attempt to remove it by using needle-nose pliers per the service manual, all that stands to do is damage it.

Oh, watch out for tamper-proof torx screws on the slide support.  The local Suzuki dealer told me some carbs have the slides held in by screws.  Failure to remove the screws before tapping out the emulsion tube my damage the slide support.  The slide support is not listed in the parts manual. 

That said, my carbs have locations for screws but they're not tapped.   

[Mandres]

where should I look for the torx screws? 

[Mandres]

I tried tapping the main jet to unseat the emulsion tube but it didn't work.  Am I supposed to do this after removing the plastic slide support?  I'm still having no luck getting the slide support out of the carb body.  I have an idea that might work.  I'll post pics and details later this evening.

-M

[GeeP]

where should I look for the torx screws? 

They'll be on the top of the slide support, where you remove the slide.  The emulsion tube fits tightly to the slide support.  *IF* there are screws in the slide support, that may prevent removal of the emulsion tube.

The method I detailed works.  But again, you must only screw the main jet in half a turn or so.  Once it bottoms out, screw it all the way out and hit it again.  The emulsion tube should fall out of the carb.

[perfdrug]

oof. i clicked "next topic" from the previous one - to arrive at this topic, rather than selecting it from the main list, and your disassembly pic showed up. i literally shuddered. stupid carbs have given me enough probs. bring on FI.

[Mandres]

oh yea, my next bike will definitely be fuel injected.  There is a certain charm to this old tech, but it can be a real pain in the ass too.  Anyway, my idea worked beautifully.  I'm working on a detailed picture tutorial now for others who might face this same hurdle.  I'll post the link when it's done.

-M