who would be interested in titanium Sprockets for the gs500?

[Susuki_Jah]

who would be interested in titanium Sprockets for the gs500?

Im about to go back to my duty base and I can get ahold of some titanium ( upon my owwn purchase).
I can make the sprockets on the mill. I was going to do it anyways for my own personal bike. But if there was a high enough demand for them, I could pump out quite a bit more.  One of my instructors made titanium sprockets for his aprilla.   Titanium is lighter than aluminum and harder than steel. I will be making a crap load more part for the Gs500 if I have the time. So I will keep the board updated.


I dont know if anyone has already tried selling titanium parts for the gs but if so let me know because I dont want to tread on anyones innovations already.


thanks

josh

[makenzie71]

Why would anyone want titanium sprockets?

[makenzie71]

Ok let me be a bit clearer because I don't want that post to come across as condescending:

Titanium is hard.  That means it's going to wear on a chain as dramatically, if not more so, as a steel sprocket.  Titanium is very durable.  That means that you'll still be working on a fairly new sprocket when it comes chain-change time.  But your Ti sprocket will have some wear and it will accellerate chain wear and by about chain #3 you're going to be cause notieable damage to them.  It's going to make chain/sprocket jobs a hassle.

On top of that, Titanium is also heavy.  Almost twice the mass as Aluminum.

[rangerbrown]

less rotaing mass and last longer but chain my last less not sure keep it oiled it could and this is mop
20-30 if done right, hell i have 11k on my stock chain and spockets and there fine other than the chain which seem to be streching a good bit no problems yet.


what would the price be for a full set on stock set up what ever that may be?

[Susuki_Jah]

Ok let me be a bit clearer because I don't want that post to come across as condescending:

Titanium is hard.  That means it's going to wear on a chain as dramatically, if not more so, as a steel sprocket.  Titanium is very durable.  That means that you'll still be working on a fairly new sprocket when it comes chain-change time.  But your Ti sprocket will have some wear and it will accellerate chain wear and by about chain #3 you're going to be cause notieable damage to them.  It's going to make chain/sprocket jobs a hassle.

On top of that, Titanium is also heavy.  Almost twice the mass as Aluminum.

take a look at what a f22 is mainly made of http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-22-mp.htm


I did make a mistake in saying titanium alone is lighter than aluminum, 6061 aluminum  is .098 pounds per cubic inch, 3/2.5 titanium is .160 lbs/cubic inch .4130 steel weighs 0.283 lb./in3

http://www2.sjsu.edu/orgs/asmtms/artcle/articl.htm

this has some good info on it.

Titanium is stronger than steel though, were aluminum is not. I dont think the amount of wear on the chain will outway the pro's of a stronger material aswell as lighter being used for the sprocket. I guess some people could say it might be a waste, and I guess its more about the exotic use of it more than anything.  But I will be making a set for my bike. I will have to wait another month or so to figure out how it will all work out and what kind of deal I can get on the titanium.  But I will make a post about that when i get to that point.  I will take a long ass road trip on a brand new chain and then wait a few weeks and show what type of wear the sprockets may cause. chains dont cost to much but I guess sprockets dont either. but im sure a titanium sprocket would last you a long long time lol. titanium is also less-corrosive than most metals.

aluminum might overall be the best choice for the sprockets, and I doalready have aluminum sprockets. But I do still want to try out these titanium ones. Some big cons about titanium alloy's are the prices and that they are slightly heavier than aluminum.

[starwalt]

I would not be interested in Ti sprockets for my stock GS, but if you get your technique right, Ti sprockets for the Ezuki might be a real consideration.

The Ezuki is my electric conversion of the junkyard GS being used for donor nuts, bolts, parts.

Now if you are thinking about a Ti GS frame...

[makenzie71]

take a look at what a f22 is mainly made of http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-22-mp.htm

Take a look at what the $$$$ sprocket sets uesd in world motoGP are made out of.

In the words of a great friend of mine when I start contemplating "great ideas"; If it were such a good idea, why wouldn't the folks who think carbon fiber guage bezels are necessary use them?

[The Buddha]

See the performance at any cost clowns that run GP and all other big ticket racing have no use for anything that has any claim to longevity. they'd run aluminum since they swap out one every race. Now for a street bike, I want the damn thing to last forever. However I do believe Ti sproket will eat chains, which in turn will eat itself, I would rather go belt ...
Cool.
Srinath.

[scratch]

Maybe you should send him drawings for your titanium pulleys.  I'd get me a set of pulleys, too.

[makenzie71]

pullies would actually apeal to a LOT of people.