Its Over

[jason1080]

well its official i blew the motor so does anyone know how the one year manufactuers warrenty works? will they deny it cus of the exhaust and the k&n filter?

[V8Pinto]

Not if that stuff is not on there when you take it in...

[FearedGS500]

hehe . have you taken your bike in for the tune ups and the normaly stuff ? if not be ready to fight . cuz when they look up the history of your bike and they dont see any thing then there probly not gonna warrenty it . as for the mods you have . they have to have evidence that thats what caused it to blow . kinda of hard off an exaust and an airfilter . but just to be safe i'd just take that stuff off and turn it in . they cant say any thing then i work at a ford dealer so i kinda of know the back doors. and i'v learned the bike dealers are pretty much the same . if you have all the paper work for the stuff you did your self ( oil,filter,vaulves) stuff like that to prove that you have been keeping up with it then you can kinda save your self some trouble

[Cal Amari]

Who told you the engine is kaput? What proof did they provide? I realize that you probably DID do some serious damage to it, but I'd like to know the extent of the damage, and whether or not you had the engine checked by a qualified mechanic, or someone who only THINKS they know what they're talking about.

[jason1080]

well it wont start and there is no compression

[sledge]

Jason?
Have you any reason to suspect its your fault, have you done something that may have caused the damage like run it low on oil? It could well be a genuine warranty issue but the dealer will insist on dismantling and carefuly examining the engine before admitting liability so get it back to stock before you take it in. They will have seen numerous wrecked engines and will know exactly how and why it has failed so the less reasons they have to argue with you the better.

[Wrecent_Wryder]

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[starwalt]

well it wont start and there is no compression

A broken cam chain will give you this symptom.

If it is under warranty, take it in. The worst they can say is it will cost "$X" to fix it.

I don't think the exhaust & filter will matter, unless the warranty rules state this. They probably get compensated by Suzuki for warranty work and the details of that compensation may require a review process.

I will have to ask my local Suz dealer how that works.

BTW, this is my 1000th post. WoooHooo! 

Funny. I still feel the same. 

[jason1080]

yup aftermarket exhaust and k&n filter but the messed up part is it was on the way to the shop to jet my bike

[RedShift]

I haven't read the fine print, but I can't see the warranty on the engine being compromised by changing the Air Filter and Exhaust.  These, along with brake pads are considered expendables.

If you never touched the engine I'd think you have a case for warranty service.  Take it in and see what they say.  Stand your ground if they balk.

[afplayboy18]

i dont know if its the same for bikes but a law was passed within the past couple years basically saying that if a dealer says an aftermarket part voids the warrantee they have to come up with specific evidence to support their claim. 

i'll look to see if i can find what it is exactly.

ETA:  http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?ID=50096

[jason1080]

the dealer said it might not be warentyed cus it sounds like i might have caused it

[pantablo]

of course they're going to say that. as long as you know you didnt run it without oil, or grossly neglect servicing the bike, you dont have to worry...except for the exhaust. Like goodguy says, it could cause valve issues if run for long time without rejetting...and that "long time" will be a point of contention. Prepare yourself for a long fight either way. They arent going to pony up the repairs easily. Suzuki does cover the costs of warranty repairs but not at full rate so the dealer gets screwed on warranty repairs. Thats how it was explained to me...

[Cal Amari]

the dealer said it might not be warentyed cus it sounds like i might have caused it

Most of us are aware of your previous post:

http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=24670.0

where you admitted that you DIDN'T rejet the carbs when you installed the K&N air filter and the V&H exhaust. You specifically mentioned riding WITHOUT rejetting the carbs, which indicates that you were at least somewhat aware of the risks involved in neglecting to do that. I guess it was more important to you to install a "performance" exhaust, maybe to attract attention, or simply to make noise, rather than to protect that expensive engine from this type of damage, which Suzuki should NOT warranty. You ARE responsible for the damage, no one else. If you DID take the GS in for service previously with the aftermarket stuff installed, chances are someone made a note of it, and switching back to the stock parts now won't help you avoid paying the piper.

You should think real hard about accepting responsibility for this; you CHOSE to ride without rejetting, didn't you? Or did someone hold a gun to your head to force you to ride without rejetting, but you neglected to mention that in your previous posts?

From an ethical standpoint, YOU are financially responsible for the damage you've caused. You should be adult enough to admit that, pay for the repairs out of your own pocket, and not try to weasel out of this. I know the odds are against that happening, but I'm hoping you'll do the right thing here.

I hate to see someone so young learn such an expensive lesson the hard way, but this seems entirely self-inflicted to me. Few people seem to take rejetting carbs seriously, and it looks like you're about to become the poster child...

[Trwhouse]

Hi all,
I agree with Cal Amari's very eloquent position.
Based on what you have told us about installing the exhaust system and filter and not rejetting as part of the install, I'd have to say that this is your repair job to pay for.
What were you thinking? If you do work on any engine in a car, motorcycle or whatever, you have to do A,B and C to arrive at Z. Speed parts in particular have consequences for other related parts and must be installed properly and with other mods to work correctly. Had you installed longer "stroker" connecting rods without checking the piston to valve clearance first and then smashed pistons into valves it would have essentially been the same problem.
I do feel for you, really I do, but this is an expensive lesson you apparently had to learn.
Take your time and do things correctly.
Besides, what were you doing installing this stuff yourself then giving up on the tuning and rejetting? That's part of the learning curve and I'm surprised you didn't want to tackle the whole thing.
Good luck to you and I hope your bike is back on the road soon,
Best wishes,
Todd 

[Alphamazing]

...So...

Wanna buy an engine?