is a full system better than a slip on

[nebgsf]

I currently own a gs500f and i was wondering if a vance and hines system was a better bargain than a yoshimura or d&d slip on. I was reading a post here regarding back preasure and it seemed to me that if i got a slip on i would still gain some power at the top end.

[LimaXray]

It doesn't matter, the v&h won't fit on the F... but if it did, yes, a full exhaust would perform better

[nebgsf]

ive read a post here of some guy who has put a vance and hines on his gs500f

[LimaXray]

Appearntly there are clearance issues with the oil cooler and the oil pan bolts.  You would have to modify it to get it to fit.  There is the Laser that should work, but is kinda pricey 

[Alphamazing]

ive read a post here of some guy who has put a vance and hines on his gs500f

One post, and he never posted pictures of how it bolted up- to the head.

I've tried a Yosh full system on my bike and it didn't work. Didn't come CLOSE to working. The V&H would be the same.

Get a slip on. I doubt you'll see much improvement in horsepower, maybe a few tenths. A full one if you're lucky. It's only good for improving the sound, pretty much, though.

[nebgsf]

yo if  i weld on a slip on and i dont like it can i take it off and put the stock one back on?

[Alphamazing]

yo if  i weld on a slip on and i dont like it can i take it off and put the stock one back on?

If it's welded... you'll have to weld the stock one back on...

(Is it just me, or does this look vavguely familiar?)

[ajgs500]

hmmmm..............

[NiceGuysFinishLast]

yo if  i weld on a slip on and i dont like it can i take it off and put the stock one back on?

If it's welded... you'll have to weld the stock one back on...

(Is it just me, or does this look vavguely familiar?)

spelling/grammar are too good.

[galahs]

The only problem I can see with the original exhaust system (apart from the stock muffler) is where the collector welds to a bit of pipe that is then joined to another bit of pipe that the muffler is attatched too.
making the pipe look like this...
_____            ______
          ---------
_____---------______

Other than that, the system looks fine to me.

[Cal Amari]

We can smell the squid on your breath, nick...

[nebgsf]

ok?  and going on

[Turd Ferguson]

We can smell the squid on your breath, nick...

Glad someone else sensed the "nick" in the atmosphere...

-Turd.

[My Name Is Dave]

The "yo" and avoidance of the shift key were helpful in blowing his cover.

[Cal Amari]

Actually, Alpha and AJ were well ahead of me... as has been mentioned in a previous thread, squidly nick claims to ride a motorcycle, but he does it for all the wrong reasons. He has no interest in doing anything that isn't related to making an ass of himself at every opportunity; he only wants to MAKE NOISE, and show off for the other three year-olds who hang out down by the sandbox. He'll cripple or kill himself, and people will cry and think he wasted his life, but it will only be Darwinism triumphing again. Of course, OUR insurance rates will go up, though squidly nick won't have to worry about that from the comfort of his wheelchair, iron lung, or coffin, whichever is his NEXT "ride", AFTER he RUINS a perfectly good motorcycle.

The thing is, I get the feeling that squidly nick is actually fourteen years old, and only pretends he has a motorcycle... Either that, or he's suffering from the effects of one or more of the following:

1. An inadequate personality

2. Undescended testicles

I keep hoping that people like him either wise up soon, or die quickly; since they have no interest in actually learning how to RIDE a motorcycle, they are hazards to themselves and everyone around them. If they wise up, the motorcycling community as a whole benefits; if they don't, there is a severe shortage of organ donors in this country, and squids help to ease the suffering of another family through the organ donations their next of kin make. If squids serve no real purpose in life, they should at least be useful in death. Countless thousands are waiting for kidneys, livers, hearts... a good number of human organs are transplantable, and squids can help ease the shortage.

Come to think of it, maybe my perspective on this is all wrong; maybe I should encourage squidly behavior... a squid might donate an organ that saves my life, or the life of someone dear to me... Leukemia and heart disease run in my family; no matter how obnoxious they are, every squid has bone marrow and a heart that could help someone else... looks like I've got some thinking to do... Let's see... Lose a squid, save someone who deserves to live... I'm beginning to think there is a place in this world for squids after all... As long as they don't ruin any transplantable organs when they stuff themselves under a bus, they just might be able to make themselves useful to society after all...

Well, I'm going to have another beer, and give this some more thought; though I've always been inclined to discourage squidly behavior, I might have to reconsider this from a new perspective... maybe if all squids carried signed organ donor cards, I could see this in a different light... they tend to be relatively healthy young males right up until the moment of impact... Their brains aren't worth a shaZam!, but brains can't be transplanted anyway... time to do some more pondering...

[galahs]

Back on topic, why do all full sports systems loose the balance pipe?

My understanding has always been that they can benefit low down torque?

[LimaXray]

Whenever you free up an exhaust restriction you lose some low end torque in exchange for more top end horsepower.  A well designed street system I'm sure would take this into account to give you the best of both worlds.  This is another example of how increasing performance decreases streetability

[galahs]

On car systems, a well placed H pipe will actually increase performance.

I wonder what the reasoning of the GS500's H pipe is?