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Who would be interested in single side swingarm kits?

Started by makenzie71, June 07, 2006, 06:01:14 PM

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makenzie71

Not for the GS...only the EX thus far, and it's still missing an eccentric (had to scrap the project for my last TL kit).  I'll try to whip some pics of it up after while.

bubba zanetti

Sounds good, I wouldn't mind seeing some pics of one.

I'll have to see if the devil will take a third mortage on my soul  :icon_twisted:
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MarkusN

Quote from: makenzie71 on June 07, 2006, 10:54:36 PM
I'm still unclear as to why everyone thinks international shipping is so difficult...

I could send a kit to Europe or Australia for less than $100 in freight costs...if you're willing to wait 4~6 weeks, it'll ship for $20. 4~6 days would be like $60~70 and 3~4 days would be probably in the $100 area.
Shipping wouldn't be a problem; homologation would. I see no way how you might get that past inspection in Germany or Switzerland. Dunno about the UK.

makenzie71

I wouldn't think it'd be an issue in either place...there's SSSA kits available for sale all over europe (bigger thing there).

nick_villan

ill be interested in one if u can post some pics on a gs first. i want to see how exactly its looks before i buy somthing.
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MarkusN

Quote from: makenzie71 on June 08, 2006, 01:54:32 AM
I wouldn't think it'd be an issue in either place...there's SSSA kits available for sale all over europe (bigger thing there).
Sure is possible. But you need to prove suitability of the technical solution with the respective bodies (e.g. TÜV in Germany). That's normally done by the manufacturers, who then issue a document certifying this in cooperation with the homologation folks. If you want to get an individual homologation you will have to prove that both strength and stiffness are sufficient. If there's welding on the part there's the question if the welder has the appropriate licenses, etc. etc. yadda yadda. It's generally a pain in the butt.
Using existing swingarms is less of an issue, as their usability is assumed to be proven by their primary application.

werase643

Quote from: makenzie71 on June 07, 2006, 10:54:36 PM
I'm still unclear as to why everyone thinks international shipping is so difficult...

I could send a kit to Europe or Australia for less than $100 in freight costs...if you're willing to wait 4~6 weeks, it'll ship for $20.  4~6 days would be like $60~70 and 3~4 days would be probably in the $100 area.




crack baby!!!!!!!!!!!
I want your shipping company
I sent a foam/plastic KTM DUKE II seat and kickstand to OZ....$76 and 120 days USPS

UPS and fed ex wanted  about 400-500 to ship a set uf USD/tripples forks to UA

if you hook me up on them under 100 buck shipping rates....i won't call ya crack baby anymore.... :laugh:
want Iain's money to support my butt in kens shop

blue05twin

Mak you have some serious talent.  I'm interested but would like to see how one looks on a GS first, yes I know the same on the TL just imagaine it's a GS right?
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bargovic

Looks like an awesome idea. Im the type of person who likes to let someone else try it for a while and hear some feedback tho.

seamax

Quote from: blue05twin on June 08, 2006, 06:28:25 AM
Mak you have some serious talent.  I'm interested but would like to see how one looks on a GS first, yes I know the same on the TL just imagaine it's a GS right?


Ditto. Interested also but would like a mockup. Want to see how it looks and maybe your opinion on the ride once it's on.

It's hard to buy an item that is based on another albeit they are quite similar.

Alphamazing

Well Mak, it looks like they need a test dummy. Maybe if I get my job soon I can afford one... we'll see. It'd be awesome though.
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makenzie71

Brian...first biter would likely get the kit at cost.

Alphamazing

Quote from: makenzie71 on June 08, 2006, 10:14:11 AM
Brian...first biter would likely get the kit at cost.

Yeah, but I'm still poor and live 10 hours away from you. What do you think cost would be? $300 or so?
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makenzie71

Distance wouldn't be an issue...supply a stock swingarm and you're gold.  Cost of parts would be in the $300~400 range.

jiggersplat

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If you'll pay for it, I have one that does work ...

Try 500+ and you have to fab up a little on your bike too. But it will work and look good.

The bigger question is - How would it handle ??? - Prolly slower round corners. And may be harder to change direction - higher un sprung weight and higher rotating mass.

How would it feel - Prolly more bottom heavy. Heavier and low to the ground.

How would it affect acceleration and other - Prolly act like you're dragging a fat chick ... its ~20-30 lb heavier at the end of it.

I am compensating by stuffing a gr650 motor and have hacked off the tail section ... so I am good ...  :mad:

In effect - can be done and made to work. Mods needed on frame - like drilling out the pivot 1mm, and making a taller shock mount - or find a 9 inch long GSXR caliber shock. Or I am also working on a linkage - which may have to have other mods to frame.

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jiggersplat



Quote from: The Buddha on June 23, 2009, 11:00:38 AM
The bigger question is - How would it handle ??? - Prolly slower round corners. And may be harder to change direction - higher un sprung weight and higher rotating mass.

don't care.  looks badass.

QuoteHow would it feel - Prolly more bottom heavy. Heavier and low to the ground.

don't care.  it looks badass.

QuoteHow would it affect acceleration and other - Prolly act like you're dragging a fat chick ... its ~20-30 lb heavier at the end of it.

doesn't matter.  it's badass-looking

you got pics of yours?
2003 suzuki sv1000s

The Buddha

Not on a bike, and I wont put that up till its done, there is atleast one secret ingredient that I will have to source a few of, buy em and keep for personal use before I throw that info out into the gstwin domain and I cant get cheap crap any more, like with kat FE's ... as soon as the kat fe swap started as a mod in here, in a few weeks, all the $100 kat FE's that the sellers could not give away off fleabay disappeared.  >:(

Cant have that happen to my magic part. I need 20 ... I need 100 of them and I will buy and swap out on GS'es for years ... muhahahahahahaha ... its what the suzuki factory will have me assasinated for ... muhahahahahahaha ....

Cool.
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makenzie71

It never went anywhere because no one was willing to invest the money required to get it to work.  Stuff like this isn't cheap and, when you look at the big picture, it's not worth it unless you can do it yourself.  I just saw a 916 go for $2500.  GT Hawks do that all the time.  So dumping $500~750 in parts PLUS labor and fabrications to make it work on a $1100 bike just doesn't much make sense.

The Buddha

Supply and demand works in reverse if you're dealing in used parts.
The more Kat shocks you buy from the open market, the costlier they start to get. However if we're making stuff, someone collected up 100-200 orders for stuff like bars or case guards, I'd have em made in a few days and prolly make $ in the process too.
Cool.
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