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Which one's less dangerous

Started by TadMC, June 24, 2006, 10:48:29 AM

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High siding or Low siding

Hide side
Low side

TadMC

Im just wondering, I think you would stand less of chance of breaking bones if you low side, but you'd get more burns

Alphamazing

High side can buck you anywhere and snap just about any bone in your body.

Low side just has you sliding around. If you're wearing proper gear you won't get road rash.
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TadMC

It seems like broken pelvises would be very common on a high side.

It looks like they always land on their asses

Alphamazing

Quote from: TadMC on June 24, 2006, 10:59:07 AM
It seems like broken pelvises would be very common on a high side.

It looks like they always land on their asses

I've seen 'em land on their arms, hands, ass, back, head, everything. That's why highsides are dangerous: you have no control of how you're going to land. When you're sliding along the ground from a low side you can at least roll to your back (where there is more surface area to slow you down). Like I said, racers have lowsided at 200mph (seriously) and gotten up and walked away. How's that for demonstration of proper gear saving your hide?
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WildBlue

Exactly.  Highsiding is by far the most dangerous.  You essentially become a human projectile at whatever speed your bike was going, and whatever height your bike tosses you up to, and there's only one thing to stop you: the ground (or maybe a tree).  Not to mention the fact that once you do touch down, your own bike might still run you over.   :o

TadMC

Now let me get this straight.

A high side is when a rider is making a very fast turn and the rear tire loses traction, which then puts alll the weight on the front tire, which then causes the back tire to regain traction, and then aligning its self with the front tire bucks you off

did I get it right?

Alphamazing

Quote from: TadMC on June 24, 2006, 12:30:01 PM
Now let me get this straight.

A high side is when a rider is making a very fast turn and the rear tire loses traction, which then puts alll the weight on the front tire, which then causes the back tire to regain traction, and then aligning its self with the front tire bucks you off

did I get it right?


Sort of. It's when the rear wheel loses traction and then regains it due to a difference in tarmac, but usually because the rider lets off the throttle. The wheel hooks up again and pushes the bike in the direction it is now facing. Since the bike's momentum is going one way and the bike pushes another way it bucks and the rider goes flying.

Only thing you missed was the weight transfer. Think about it, if the weight of the bike is transferred forward there will be less weight on the rear wheel. That would cause it to lose traction a lot easier.
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rangerbrown

ok so who thought that a high side is safer?

side on ground or fiying throught the air and then hiting the ground and then sideing.....

i will take sideing any day of the week than flying and then siding.
nee down mother F***ers

TadMC

I was watching AMA world superbike (i think thats the supped up 1000s) any way, and a dude on a ducati was winning. beating the yoshimira suzuki team, and he high sided. I felt bad for him, cuz he lost, but he litteraly walked away.

Funny thing was is that he actually picked the bike back up and rode it back to pit row

NWDave

If you lose traction with your rear wheel while braking.. don't let off.. give it more braking force and you'll go into a lowside.. at least this is what I have been told.

scratch

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Quote from: rangerbrown on June 24, 2006, 01:01:07 PM
ok so who thought that a high side is safer?
Yes, and WHY do they think it's safer!?

This might be a better explanation of a highside: In a turn, at maximum lean angle, the rear tire slips and then suddenly regains traction, causing the bike to flip over and, like a catapult, send the rider into orbit.

Lowside: The rear tire slips out from under you, depositing you on the road or track.

Hmm...let's see...catapulting into a potential tumble scenario where, as you're tumbling, limbs are flailing about, uncontrolably...

Or, you lowside, where the folding footpeg pushes your leg out from under the bike, since you already know to put your weight on the outside peg...thereby preventing trapping your leg underneath the bike, or getting it broken.

Dirtbikers - When you turn, which leg is off the peg?

Which bone is most likely to be broken?

Why?
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werase643

#11
think this way....
what would you rather do....
fall from 1 FT or 15 FT
....at 60 MPH

i'll take 1 FT
i've been transported and spent a week in the H-pital for both
high side broke alot more stuff but got me MORPHINE!!!!!!

oh yeah, who fukin cares what happens to the bike
ya can always buy another bike
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nick_villan

the same thing hapend to my neighbor, exept after his last fall he quit he por years
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CirclesCenter

Highsides are my biggest fear. No control at all, shitastic.

Low sides are just sliding along and hoping you don't hit anything solid, or anything solid hits you.
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ets_gs500f2004

i wouldnt want to both of em to happen ether way it can hert lol
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ets_gs500f2004

thinking about it the hightside almost happend at low speed.... i was in a cement garage and its really slipery and i pushed on the trotle while turning a lil to much...... rear wheel started spining and it leaned over a lil bit..... got scared let got of the trottle then the bike got straight again in a split second an i almost whent flying....... now im happy this didnt happen at high speed
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