Hahahahahahahahahahahaha - aka Impressions of a 14T sprocket

Started by Alphamazing, June 30, 2006, 10:27:14 AM

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CirclesCenter

Jesus this thread was old when I was new.  :cookoo:

Anyways Alpha, you should knock a couple teeth out of your DRZ. That would be nutty...  :icon_twisted:
Rich, RIP.

Alphamazing

Quote from: CirclesCenter on March 14, 2007, 08:44:12 PM
Anyways Alpha, you should knock a couple teeth out of your DRZ. That would be nutty...  :icon_twisted:

No can do. Dropping a tooth on the countershaft causes the chain to rub parts of the engine casings. I'd have to go up on the rear, and apparently going up a few teeth will cause it to throttle wheelie in 1st. However, I do enough highway riding that gearing for higher RPM riding would end up getting real old real fast.
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CirclesCenter

Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on March 14, 2007, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: CirclesCenter on March 14, 2007, 08:44:12 PM
Anyways Alpha, you should knock a couple teeth out of your DRZ. That would be nutty...  :icon_twisted:

No can do. Dropping a tooth on the countershaft causes the chain to rub parts of the engine casings. I'd have to go up on the rear, and apparently going up a few teeth will cause it to throttle wheelie in 1st. However, I do enough highway riding that gearing for higher RPM riding would end up getting real old real fast.

That's some of that practical BS again huh Alphie....

DRZ = Practical?
Rich, RIP.

spc

Yeah aside from looping it also gets the attention of local law enforcement when you buzz through a light on one wheel.  Found that one out a 240 dollar ticket later

Oh well  gotta have fun while your young.

Off topic:  I REUP this summer and might be coming into a substantial reenlistment bonus..........so would I be to retarded if I went and bought a Duc 998r??????I've got a buddy with one that sits in his garage and he only wants 8 for it.......He's not allowed to operate a motorcycle in the state of georgia anymore

Alphamazing

Quote from: spcterry on March 21, 2007, 12:00:13 AM
Yeah aside from looping it also gets the attention of local law enforcement when you buzz through a light on one wheel.  Found that one out a 240 dollar ticket later

That is why you
1) Look for cops.
2) Don't do that sort of stuff on the street (or at least not that big).
3) Don't run stop lights.
4) Don't be reckless.

I've talked to a few cops, and they said that a little pop due to dropping the clutch as you shift into a higher gear, or a little pop due to hard acceleration over a crest in the road is no big deal usually, provided you're not being reckless or there are cars around you. Doing stupid shaZam! like hoisting your wheel in the air through stop lights and in traffic is what gets you in trouble.
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ledfingers

what do you all think about going up a tooth or two on the front sprocket? My HS auto teacher and riding mentor always went up in teeth on the front and down in teeth on the rear. He said it was for both the freeway and the twisties but i never got a chance to ask why. But in the twisties i don't really see why it would matter. a change up or down on front or back would help, wouldn't it? Down a tooth or two in front makes you wind up faster, you're higher in revs but you have to shift more. Up a tooth in front and you'd be able to stretch out a gear a lot farther, but it'd also take longer to get there.

Am i completely off? :dunno_white:

Killermarmot

Well I'm gunna drop to 15T in front probably, sounds like a good time. But to reduce the chordal effect goodness everyone is lovin I think I may go up in teh rear instead (getting new tires so I'll have the rear off anyway. So my question is how many teeth do I need to go up in the rear to have the equivalent of down one tooth in the front. Just incase that didn't make sense. If I went 15T - 39T would the equivalent rear be 16T - 40T or is it more complicated then just number of teeth due to sprocket sizes?  :dunno_white: Also it was mentioned that it would be a good idea to go down to a 109 chain, I assume this applies whether you go down one in the front or up x in the rear? and just to be an extra pain while we're on the subject of chains, I haven't replaced one yet, are there any other specs I need aside from the number of links (assuming that's what the 109# is)

I just realized what newb questions those are but even after 4000 miles my wrenching hasn't gone beyond chain tension, lube, and checking wear thus far when it comes to the drivetrain  :)

Thanks guys, :cheers:
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Egaeus

Quote from: ledfingers on March 21, 2007, 12:39:40 AM
Am i completely off? :dunno_white:
Yes, but you're right about the gearing.  The GS can't stand too much more in the front (or down in rear), or you'll end up with the acceleration of a school bus.
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spc

I didn't run the light I just dropped the clutch real hard when it turned green :nono:  oops.....

okayf00l

Im thinking about ordering a sprocket asap what kind of chain should I get to go along with it and will I need to take any teeth out?  IM just concerned about messing with the back tire.
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Alphamazing

Quote from: okayf00l on April 17, 2007, 12:41:06 PM
Im thinking about ordering a sprocket asap what kind of chain should I get to go along with it and will I need to take any teeth out?  IM just concerned about messing with the back tire.

I'm not sure I quite understand your post. You're thinking about ordering a sprocket (a 14T front, I assume) and you are asking if you need to take TEETH out of a chain? Do you mean LINKS?

You will be fine with a stock 520 chain with 110 links, if that's what your asking. I don't understand what you mean by "messing with the back tire" though. Could you clarify that a bit?
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serbianstunna

is it possible to take a link out, or plausible if my chain is near its end of adjustments?

Egaeus

1.  You have to take out 2 links at a time.

2.  Unless you have a valid reason (like fewer sprocket teeth), then absolutely not. 
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serbianstunna

Yeah i just ordered a 14 tooth, and i might need to take 2 links out then.  If i put the 16 tooth back in will i have to add the links again or would it be cool if i left it?

Alphamazing

Quote from: serbianstunna on May 23, 2007, 09:31:23 PM
Yeah i just ordered a 14 tooth, and i might need to take 2 links out then.  If i put the 16 tooth back in will i have to add the links again or would it be cool if i left it?

If you remove them for the 14 tooth... then logically you'd have to put them back in for the 16 tooth.
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serbianstunna


Alphamazing

Quote from: serbianstunna on May 24, 2007, 06:17:30 AM
couldnt i just adjust my chain again?

If you're having to remove them to keep proper chain length... you're going to have to add them back in to keep proper chain length...
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Turd Ferguson

Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on May 24, 2007, 08:08:17 AM
If you're having to remove them to keep proper chain length... you're going to have to add them back in to keep proper chain length...

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jdecaire

i dont kno if anyone's still checkin this  post but i'm considering putting a renthal 14t sprocket in my gs 500 by what ive read in this forum, and ive read all seven pages, it should fix my main problems with the performance at a fairly low cost...but anyways i was just curious, because i live in a town with many roads where other vehicles are rarely on and i can practice things such as wheelies and stoppies, since you have been saying in the early posts that you love wheelies lol and u can do them , can you wheelie with just throttle in 1st and shift into second (i can shift in wheelies i have lots of practice with my kx 125 dirtbike), or can u throttle wheelie in second or do u have to slip the clutch in second, or can you even throttle wheelie at all???? 

bucks1605

with a 15 tooth would i have to remove links from my chain, or adjust the rear wheel back? Or can it be left alone?
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