Turbos

[vwwebb]

Does anyone know of any turbos that can fit a 2006 GS500F? Im not interested in getting a busa or a GSXR1000. I want a sleeper you know make something into something no one saw coming. 

[Lukewarm Wilson]

no aftermarket ones you'll have to build it all yourself but if you do a search on turbo's you'll come across the two that have already been done you'll get to see what they did and then you'll go buy a GSXR1000 instead personaly I would think supercharging would be easier but room would be a problem I think and if supercharging is the go then NOS to go with that then who needs turbos 

[rangerbrown]

good first post,  youy should have gotten a biger bike.

but in any case here is the current project i am working on. 
the sreen name is the same
http://www.sportbikes.ws/showthread.php?t=79643

[NiceGuysFinishLast]

oh God. BOHICA.

Welcome to the forum. Run a search for "Turbo" you'll find all the info you want. In fact, someone was selling their already turbo'd gs.. bet you could find it, and pick it up cheap. Hell, one guy here managed to fuel inject a GS... combine that with a turbo, and you're set! Good luck, and kepe us posted.

[vwwebb]

thanks for the adviced and the welcoming. I thought i would get laughed at but i guess you understand what my mission is.

[fisk]

if you get any news let me know ive been looking for them as well

[average]

good first post,  youy should have gotten a biger bike.

but in any case here is the current project i am working on. 
the sreen name is the same
http://www.sportbikes.ws/showthread.php?t=79643

Good read,man. It seems like you will have plenty of people to go to once you start your project. 

[ajgs500]

So if u wanna put a turbo on it why are you selling it???

[vwwebb]

just found out, i hate to do it but my family comes first

[CirclesCenter]

Hey Ranger Brown, I'm going to head down to the library tomorrow and read up as much as I can on turbos and such, I'm going to try to help you.

I've done a few supercharger projects in my time and I think a lot of what i know will be helpful. (At age 12 I built an electrically [driven off battery]  supercharged minibike with a standard 3.5hp briggs&stratton It became much less slow.)

I'm also pretty tight with the guys at the local superbike shop, and they have a couple turbo'd gixxers and such around... (And a N/A Gix Thou with 180 AT THE REAR WHEEL OMG)

They do carb'd bikes too.

Anyways man, hit me back!

[TadMC]

oh God. BOHICA.

your gonna have to remind me what BOHICA stands for

[deathlucky]

couldnt u just boar out the intakes and outtakes to get more power or flog the heads off a bike that has 8 valves insted of 4 to get that power also wouldnt you engine just get way to hot after abit

[TadMC]

you mean like this hot

[LimaXray]

If you haven't already, I suggest you read this book. 

Anyway, if I were to turbo a GS500 I would use a Garrett GT12 or GT15 Turbo.  The GT12 will max out much over 100hp, while the GT15 should be able to get you up to the 200hp mark.  The question then becomes, how much power can you really make out of the GS before things start to break?  If it were me, I'd probably end up getting the GT15, just because it gives me more room to play with.   

Next, you want to look into fuel injecting.  It seems to me that everyone who tried turbo'ing a GS had issues with to using the carbs.  EFI makes fueling really really simple, so don't be afraid of its high-techness.  Take a look here for more info on that.  When I was rejetting the carbs the other day, I thought it would be pretty easy to convert the carbs to throttle bodies by removing the whole needle valve assembly and replacing it with a fuel injector.

Anyway, good luck!

[TadMC]

somebody need to do this and tell every one else exactly how they did it

[CirclesCenter]

I think that's what Ranger brown is doing.

Lima, thanx for input. Yeah i've played and carbs + turbo = headache.

I knew about the mega squirt and all that I just didn't make the connection from my automotive days, thanx for making it for me. I feel dumb 

That sounds like the best way Lima. I'll take a look and start pushing that pencil across the paper.

[NiceGuysFinishLast]

BOHICA = Bend Over, Here It Comes Again

[rangerbrown]

lima, i cant thank you enough for the links you have sent me,

i dont want to make a ass load of power, i just want 10lbs max to pick up the mid-top end

the most i want to make is 80-90 that for the gs would be more than enough. i think any way.

the big big problem is heat. bottom line. i will me up grading it with a cars oil cooler with fan, headers and turbine section of the turbo will be one or both depending on the $$$$ situation

headers ciramic coated to turbo or/and header wrap on headers and turbo.

mult gauges
oil temp
fuel press
boost press
A/F mix
CYL temp

just for starters. i want to do this now, but i am going to wait. i dont have the tools that will do it right,
and i am rideing the bike all but evey day. come winter this thing will be on the phorch for a teardown.

plan is to do a wild port/pollish and larger intake valves
look into axu oil res/cooling
try to see if i can get mega sq to work for me, i have 13lbs and 19lb injectors (ford) they should be pleanty for this. the 19's any way


thanks again, now the gt12 sells for about 500$ and the tight ass that i am, is there any were that my have it cheaper? ebay (non right now but they wil come)
better yet, what if any, car did they come on.

[LimaXray]

It's no problem, I have a whole slew of great websites for turbo and EFI info, turbocharging and EFI is my 'other' hobby 
ask me anything about them and I can probably give you a good website.

The GT12 is a specialty turbo, I don't think I've ever seen them on eBay, and I also don't think there are any cars out there with a GT series turbo from the factory.  (maybe there are, but probably not a common car you'd easily find in the junk yard and probably not a GT12)  Honestly though, $500 for a new brand name turbo is pretty cheap.  Stay away from the non-brand name turbos on eBay that sell for <$300 and claim to have Garrett parts and what not, because trust me, they are crap, and you'll only wind up buying a better turbo down the road. 

Another option would be to get a small T3 turbo.  They are very common in production cars and are a good size for this application.  You can probably get a rebuilt one for less than $400, or a good used one for less than $200.  A T3 wouldn't be as ideal as a GT turbo, but for the cost it's a fine option.

I'll have to sit down and crunch some numbers as I'm bored at work and figure out which turbo would really be best.

[TarzanBoy]

Turbo on the GS is totally not worth it.  Even if you do get a 2x upgrade in horspower/torque, that still puts you right below the spec of a race-ready 600cc bike like an R6 which is lighter, handles better, and has appropriately sized tires and brakes for those speeds.