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Started by Dwn4whadever, August 08, 2006, 12:55:18 PM

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Dwn4whadever

August 08, 2006, 12:55:18 PM
I have a 1996 10,000 and some odd miles on it. I jetted to 148s and 40s with a lunch bow filter and with 3.5 turns out and two needles. Oh and a stock exhaust. When i roll on the throttle hard its like the bike wants to die. If i roll on it slow its ok till like 6k and then it starts poppin kinda. This has got me stumped, its kinda like its running lean and rich. I will have video and pics of the spark plugs in a bit.  :thumb:
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Dwn4whadever

#1
August 08, 2006, 01:58:15 PM
Here is a something fro you guys to chew on....

Do you think these could be the problem.  :laugh:





A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof, is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools....

Thanks to advances in automation, Nike shoes will be made by robots. Unfortunately, the robots will be made by children in Malaysia.

Dwn4whadever

#2
August 08, 2006, 07:19:44 PM
Bump for some help here. :dunno_white:
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof, is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools....

Thanks to advances in automation, Nike shoes will be made by robots. Unfortunately, the robots will be made by children in Malaysia.

Onlypastrana199

#3
August 08, 2006, 07:25:45 PM
somebody help  him..i cant figure this one out either...
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aaronstj

#4
August 08, 2006, 08:43:44 PM
Looks rich to me.  But I'm not so good with plugs.

148 is pretty big for stock exhaust.
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#5
August 08, 2006, 09:33:48 PM
Yea bud, looks very rich to me.  I would get some smaller mains and do the whole trial and error thing.  I know folks have had trouble running an aftermaket filter with the stock exhaust, it seems to be a difficult combination.  Some 130-140 range jets might be a better fit for that setup.

-M

Dwn4whadever

#6
August 08, 2006, 09:38:44 PM
Thanks i just hope its the Mains. Another thing is i need to get the right combination. Im going to need to ride the bike to the place to get the exhaust put on. I have to beable to get there and back. I guess this is going to be an adventure.  :thumb:
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof, is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools....

Thanks to advances in automation, Nike shoes will be made by robots. Unfortunately, the robots will be made by children in Malaysia.

Dwn4whadever

#7
August 09, 2006, 01:36:41 PM
Hey im going to bump myself here and give you guys an update and maybe i can get some more help. I got some new plugs today gap them and installed them. Started the bike. It ran fine while parked and idled.  When i dropped the throttle open it did not die out like yesterday. But it did do a little popping while at idle. Now i thought popping meant it was lean, and if so explain the plugs. :thumb:
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof, is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools....

Thanks to advances in automation, Nike shoes will be made by robots. Unfortunately, the robots will be made by children in Malaysia.

Dwn4whadever

#8
August 09, 2006, 09:11:35 PM
Bump
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof, is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools....

Thanks to advances in automation, Nike shoes will be made by robots. Unfortunately, the robots will be made by children in Malaysia.

aaronstj

#9
August 09, 2006, 10:39:09 PM
I can't explain the popping, but if it's not rich, I owe you a pizza.
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Ogg: Not spear, caveman.

Alphamazing

#10
August 09, 2006, 10:41:56 PM
Popping can come from being rich as well. It's caused when the unburned fuel combusts in the exhaust pipe.
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#11
August 10, 2006, 12:06:02 AM
Also, the popping happens during idle, but the state of your plugs is mostly determined by WOT. So it my be lean down below but still rich at WOT.

Wrecent_Wryder

#12
August 10, 2006, 03:42:24 AM Last Edit: August 18, 2007, 07:52:40 AM by Wrecent_Wryder
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#13
August 13, 2006, 11:22:07 AM
I was going to bump this shaZam! again if i didnt get any respones but did, so i wont. I think i will try to 142.5s too WW i will see how those work out. I think im going to get some 147.5 when i get the exhaust on.
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof, is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools....

Thanks to advances in automation, Nike shoes will be made by robots. Unfortunately, the robots will be made by children in Malaysia.

bettingpython

#14
August 13, 2006, 01:35:27 PM
read here reply to death lucky

Your mains are way to large.
Why didn't you just go the whole way and buy me a f@#king Kawasaki you bastards.

hmmmnz

#15
August 13, 2006, 04:25:42 PM
im on pods at 140 and thats too large my plugs look like your, im not sure which have better flow, but id get 140s and wind in your mixture to about 2.5 to 3 turns out.
mabee if your feeling rich get a few sets of jets say 137.5 140s and 142.5s
pod filters, costum r6 quill exhaust(no baffles)40/140 jets, heavy duty springs, sv650 rear shock, gsxr srad tail, bandit 600 4.5 inch rim with 150 tyre, gsx twin disc front end "1995 pocket rocket"  ridden by a kiwi in scotland

Dwn4whadever

#16
August 13, 2006, 04:30:51 PM
Thanks guys. Im glad i was not crying my eyes out waiting for a respones when this happen. With the girls here it will be a it before i can set out and go working on the bike. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof, is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools....

Thanks to advances in automation, Nike shoes will be made by robots. Unfortunately, the robots will be made by children in Malaysia.

hmmmnz

#17
August 13, 2006, 04:45:01 PM
get them out there helping ya, many hands make light work :icon_mrgreen:
mabee not but hey :icon_rolleyes:
pod filters, costum r6 quill exhaust(no baffles)40/140 jets, heavy duty springs, sv650 rear shock, gsxr srad tail, bandit 600 4.5 inch rim with 150 tyre, gsx twin disc front end "1995 pocket rocket"  ridden by a kiwi in scotland

bettingpython

#18
August 13, 2006, 06:19:38 PM
I'm tellin ya now without mods you want 127.5's max. Even with all the mods you will reasonably make your never gonna run anything larger than a 135 main. Leave the pilots alone #40 non bleed type is perfect. Ignore me and you'll just bang your head against a wall until you move down to that size and figure out I'm right. I spent an entire day in the twisties yesterday running 8 to 10k on the tach. My plugs are perfect. When I say reasonably I mean Pods and race exhaust. Spend a crap load of money and fit a gixxer head and bump you dispalcement up another 100 cc's then you can use the jets you got. either spend 8 bucks max and get what ya need to fit your engine or spend several grand making your engine fit the jets up to you. :flipoff:
Why didn't you just go the whole way and buy me a f@#king Kawasaki you bastards.

Dwn4whadever

#19
August 18, 2006, 12:20:41 PM
Your wrong guy. I bought the bike and when i finally jetted it i seen that it had already had 130s on it.
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof, is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools....

Thanks to advances in automation, Nike shoes will be made by robots. Unfortunately, the robots will be made by children in Malaysia.
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