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Started by tricked500, June 29, 2003, 08:33:03 AM

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tricked500

Sup everyone,
               Last sunday my friends and I went for a ride and after a while we all started so do wheelies. I was inpressed at how the GS can do them, not a easy as a GSXR,F4I lol ......go figure ... sometimes it comes up nice an smooth and sometimes way too fast. im 250lbs so i cant use the power to get it up, I half to cluch the shaZam! out of it in 1st and cant get it up in 2nd has anyone done wheelies on the GS? if so can you get it in 2nd gear??? what RPM's are you at when you bring it up in 1st and 2nd????

let me tell you alittle about my GS500

Its a 1990
Black and gray
has shorter signal stalks
Fenderectomy
and a custom pipe its off a 1986 honda huracan custom fit for the gs gave a little more power i think and looka better than the stock one

Thanks

Tricked500
                Chris

The Antibody

I may not be any help, but..... oh what the hell, I'm going to post anyway.

I personally think you should give up on wheelies, especially with a GS500. Although, if you must, jet it man! Give the best horsepower boost and throttle response. Also, 250? It would be easier, carying sub 200lbs. (kidding) Be carful man.

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glenn9171

Drop one or two teeth on the front sprocket.  One tooth down won't get it up without clutching, but is closer than with the stock sprocket.

Rashad

What rpm do you guys drop the clutch at to wheelie in first? I am beginning to think i need to count the teeth on my front sprocket.. since i dont need to rev that high.
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Black Snowman

I still haven't hated my bike enough to try this yet but I used to do it all the time on my dirtbike. GS is a little too much fun and a little too pricey for me to be comfortable thrashing it that bad. Although I've been know to rev it enough to float the valves :oops:
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Blueknyt

the problem with droping the gear ratio is yes it pulls harder but you run out of the powerband so fast you cant keep the wheel up for nothing, specialy some of us  ehhem  bigger folks.   stock gearing, with a 150/60/17 rear tire i have been able to get the front end up more predicably and hold it into mid 2nd gear, but, allways endup hammering the hell out of the forkstops. the GS just doesnt have the power to use the upper gears, it has to be 90% ballence or nothing at all,  its got enough ponies to jerk the tire up and and over, but no power to "PULL" the tire up.   with my heavy frame on it slid back on the seat and doing about 5 mph, i can bring it right up, or, grab a speed bump in the low end of the power band in first and that will give it enough help to get up without clutch.  if the engine has had some work done it will do better.  i have seen only one GS "Power Up" the front wheel, and it aint no where NEAR stock. fact, its the only one i ever seen do 140mph  2x, it didnt make it for the 3rd,   the rider claimed it was still pulling at 13k rpm when it grenaded.   he cryed for some time after.    (i have the carbs he used cheehee)
Accelerate like your being chased, Corner like you mean it, Brake as if you life depends on it.
Ride Hard...or go home.

Its you Vs the pavement.....who wins today?

funwithtwins

im reading these wheelie testamonials and laughing, every rider's style is different, so you can do this a number of ways speeds and rpm's , ive done quiet a few mods on my bike, jet, pipe, sprocket, tire size , k&n indivudial filter's i weigh as of yesterday 245 and i can bring my bike up at about 40mph at the most thats clutching it in 2nd at about 6500 rpm's , it can be done in second anywhere from 5k rpms to almost 7k give a little tug dump the clutch and roll on the throttle hard it will get it up then keep in the throttle it will come on up , as far as first gear wheelies go i can just give a good crispy jerk in the throttle an it will rise up on me and will come over fast if i dont shift in to second , The bike has enough power to push through second into third, 3rd seems to be just enough power to ride on the rear wheel till you run out of road , fuel or just get board . Shift in to fourth u better keep in the throttle so it dont come down hard , then is seems to settle to the pavement nice and easy at about 75mph or so and the front tire makes a good squeak like a small plane landing!  And im not sitting here bragging and saying my bike has more power than everybody else's what im saying is that if you really push your bike you may be suprized at what it will do . Jetting, pipe and filters are a must for the second gear wheelies , and just get to know the limits of you and your bike you maybe suprised , but most of all by all means if you dont feel comfortable at high speeds and one wheel dont do it , dont even try it . as for bike abuse and being affraid to tear it up , well thats what i bought the bike for i paid for it i have paid to fix it a time or two and will continue to do so. So ride, live and have a little fun.
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94suzuki500

Quote from: funwithtwinsim reading these wheelie testamonials and laughing, every rider's style is different, so you can do this a number of ways speeds and rpm's , ive done quiet a few mods on my bike, jet, pipe, sprocket, tire size , k&n indivudial filter's i weigh as of yesterday 245 and i can bring my bike up at about 40mph at the most thats clutching it in 2nd at about 6500 rpm's , it can be done in second anywhere from 5k rpms to almost 7k give a little tug dump the clutch and roll on the throttle hard it will get it up then keep in the throttle it will come on up , as far as first gear wheelies go i can just give a good crispy jerk in the throttle an it will rise up on me and will come over fast if i dont shift in to second , The bike has enough power to push through second into third, 3rd seems to be just enough power to ride on the rear wheel till you run out of road , fuel or just get board . Shift in to fourth u better keep in the throttle so it dont come down hard , then is seems to settle to the pavement nice and easy at about 75mph or so and the front tire makes a good squeak like a small plane landing!  And im not sitting here bragging and saying my bike has more power than everybody else's what im saying is that if you really push your bike you may be suprized at what it will do . Jetting, pipe and filters are a must for the second gear wheelies , and just get to know the limits of you and your bike you maybe suprised , but most of all by all means if you dont feel comfortable at high speeds and one wheel dont do it , dont even try it . as for bike abuse and being affraid to tear it up , well thats what i bought the bike for i paid for it i have paid to fix it a time or two and will continue to do so. So ride, live and have a little fun.

i would have to see that to believe it, sorry.  
i have some wheelie pics in the wall of fame
http://www.gstwins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=155
http://www.gstwins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=214

there are some pics of me.  i clutch it at about 6 going 10-15.  standing stagered and covering the rear brake.  COVERING THE REAR BRAKE I SAID!  it so when you go to far you give it a tap and you will be back on two wheels not on the tail light.

calamari

I fail to see the purpose of the wheelies  :dunno:
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rclz

1st 5500rpm cause I only weigh 125lbs, and once in second on a really really steep hill by accident :o
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97gs500e

If you must stunt on a GS, don't do wheelies or stoppies.  I've done two wheelies on mine (dumping the clutch at 9k rpms in first) and I must say I don't think this bike is built to handle that kinda stuff.

If you wanna be some kinda stunt-rider badass, try something else, or get a sportbike.
I just taught myself to ride with my legs over the bars while sitting on the tank yesterday, heh heh.    :)
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stefman722

I really gotta post a video of my wheelies of me and my F on here. Dont even use the cluth, its 100% possible with just throttle control. I can keep it up and shift it in 2nd. Its hard to shift it in 2nd tho, i cant always do it, but i can keep it up for a long time. If only i knew how to post videos.  :x
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-V&H Exhaust
-K&N air filter
-15t & 14t sprockets
-Veypor MPI
-LP short stalk front signals
-Intergrated clear rear tail/signal lights
-Pirelli Sport Demons

Blueknyt

careful stef dude, many o bikes have shed 2nd gear because of these stunts.

the GS can do these stunts, a Bloody Moped can do them with enough practice, but both are ill suited.  use something with power/torque to do it and the weight to help remain stable.
Accelerate like your being chased, Corner like you mean it, Brake as if you life depends on it.
Ride Hard...or go home.

Its you Vs the pavement.....who wins today?

stefman722

Quote from: Blueknytcareful stef dude, many o bikes have shed 2nd gear because of these stunts.

the GS can do these stunts, a Bloody Moped can do them with enough practice, but both are ill suited.  use something with power/torque to do it and the weight to help remain stable.

Yes, i am always careful. You have to be. I never really came to the point where i almost went over. The gs is all i got right now so i will be doing them on the power of the gs. When i upgrade to a bigger bike, then ill be able to be safer because of the weight. But until then, gotta do it with what u got. I am definitely not a pro, but they are quite easy to do .  :cheers:
Blue GS500F
-----------------
-V&H Exhaust
-K&N air filter
-15t & 14t sprockets
-Veypor MPI
-LP short stalk front signals
-Intergrated clear rear tail/signal lights
-Pirelli Sport Demons

Blueknyt

i ment suzuki seems to have soft gear dogs and tend to blow 2nd gear easy. it can be solved by haveing the gear undercut but the engine has to come apart completely/
Accelerate like your being chased, Corner like you mean it, Brake as if you life depends on it.
Ride Hard...or go home.

Its you Vs the pavement.....who wins today?

sprint_9

I go in first gear at 3-4k and then rev up to I dont know where, not an insane amount of rpms, maybe say up to 7 and then let the clutch out, and the front wheel comes up pretty good for a what the bike is.  I have a k&n pod, v&h exhaust, and have gone up to a 43t rear sprocket with a 150/70 rear tire and dont see any possible way to where you could power wheelie the GS, not unless you did some serious gear changes, maybe you could power wheelie up like 6 inches or somethin like that, but it just doesnt have the motor to get up that high and keep it there, besides if your that adamit about wheelies go out and buy a bigger bike, Im gonna try an SV1000S in a year or two.

stefman722

the only engine mods i got is a 15t front sprocket. i go at 4500, i pull up and give it WOT and up she goes. took alot of practice but she does go up a hell of alot higher then 6 inches. I so need to post a video for u guys to beleive it.
Blue GS500F
-----------------
-V&H Exhaust
-K&N air filter
-15t & 14t sprockets
-Veypor MPI
-LP short stalk front signals
-Intergrated clear rear tail/signal lights
-Pirelli Sport Demons

funwithtwins

im with stef i need to post a video , problem is just have to find a digital video camera
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