Ok... So I know how to ride a motorcycle...

[Cannon Fodder]

Just dont try clutchless shifting...

It works, just depending on transmission is how well it works.

[Cannon Fodder]

double-clutching,

Umm, you have been watching too much Slow and the Stupid and 2 Slow and 2 Stupid.  Double clutching isn't use in racing, it is used to drive heavy un-synchronized transmissions or you can also float the gears like in the video of what looks to be an old twin stick Mack.  Power Shifting is another method of shifting, the trick is you don't let off the gas.....see a potential problem with this.  Some of the old Borg Warner and Muncie 4 speeds would handle this method very well without breakage but most of these new transmissions will not.  2 methods, nail the gas and snatch the gears, or nail the gas and kick the clutch as you shift to relieve some of the strain on the transmission.  Both of these methods will cause but is not limited to increased syncro and clutch wear, blocks with inspection windows, asphalt parts bin, and inability to shift gears.

[natedawg120]

its not hard to learn.  I love teaching people how to drive stick cause i laugh my ass off every time the bucking bronco manuver happens.  I don't know why but the look on the person learnings face is like "Holy crap i broke it"  then theres me " "  Then i talk then through the next time and they usually have the clutch figured out after an hour.  Now after that there is plenty of room for improvment and the occational or in some acses often stalls are normal but after a couple weeks of driving time you will have it down no problem. 

[GeeP]

old twin stick Mack. 

Yup!  It's a B-61.  Not many would recognize that.   

[Wrecent_Wryder]

[r4

[Cannon Fodder]

double-clutching,

Umm, you have been watching too much Slow and the Stupid and 2 Slow and 2 Stupid.  Double clutching isn't use in racing, it is used to drive heavy un-synchronized transmissions or you can also float the gears like in the video of what looks to be an old twin stick Mack.  Power Shifting is another method of shifting, the trick is you don't let off the gas.....see a potential problem with this.  Some of the old Borg Warner and Muncie 4 speeds would handle this method very well without breakage but most of these new transmissions will not.  2 methods, nail the gas and snatch the gears, or nail the gas and kick the clutch as you shift to relieve some of the strain on the transmission.  Both of these methods will cause but is not limited to increased syncro and clutch wear, blocks with inspection windows, asphalt parts bin, and inability to shift gears.

Double-clutching was used in racing for several decades, from at least the '20s right up until they started dumbing down competition cars with "paddle shifters" and whatnot. The early generations of racers didn't have synchros, they were crashbox transmissions and it was practically the only way to downshift. Later generations of synchros were still not up to handling the extreme rpm drops of agressive downshifting for compression braking for any extended period. Doing it properly relieves strain on the drivetrain, doesn't add to it.

I've been double-clutching for 35 years solid now, no recent pop-culture-idiot-movie influence needed, thanks. Yeah, it's used on trucks too. Yawn.

If you're going to be deliberately insulting, it might work a lot better if you knew what you were talking about.

Sorry I wasn't aware of that fact and I wasn't directly insulting you.  I'm just sick of hearing every god damn ricer talk about double clutching some econo shitbox down the track in 10 seconds.  The only thing is if you rev-match correctly while heel to toe you should need to double clutch, syncros or not it should drop right into gear.

[Wrecent_Wryder]

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[MarkusN]

I wonder why nobody has mentioned the H-pattern yet. That is quite different from a sequential MC gearbox. You can pick each gear directly, and first you will have to do this consciously. It becomes second nature before too long, but selecting the right gear is definitely more difficult in a car.

[annguyen1981]

I wonder why nobody has mentioned the H-pattern yet. That is quite different from a sequential MC gearbox. You can pick each gear directly, and first you will have to do this consciously. It becomes second nature before too long, but selecting the right gear is definitely more difficult in a car.

I believe someone HAS stated this.

[natedawg120]

Just in case the H pattern

1 3 5
|  | |
-------
|  | |
2 3 R

or

1 3 5
|  | |
---------
|  | | |
2 4 6 R

or

  1 3 5
  |  | |
---------            <---6 is optional
| |  | |
R 2 4 [6]

[zukiGS500]

Just in case the H pattern

1 3 5
|  | |
-------
|  | |
2 3 R

anyone else see an issue with this

[pandy]

Just in case the H pattern

1 3 5
|  | |
-------
|  | |
2 3 R

anyone else see an issue with this

Yes...it looks like something Srinath would have drawn! 

[CirclesCenter]

double-clutching,

Umm, you have been watching too much Slow and the Stupid and 2 Slow and 2 Stupid.  Double clutching isn't use in racing, it is used to drive heavy un-synchronized transmissions or you can also float the gears like in the video of what looks to be an old twin stick Mack.  Power Shifting is another method of shifting, the trick is you don't let off the gas.....see a potential problem with this.  Some of the old Borg Warner and Muncie 4 speeds would handle this method very well without breakage but most of these new transmissions will not.  2 methods, nail the gas and snatch the gears, or nail the gas and kick the clutch as you shift to relieve some of the strain on the transmission.  Both of these methods will cause but is not limited to increased syncro and clutch wear, blocks with inspection windows, asphalt parts bin, and inability to shift gears.

Someone else with mechanical knowledge.... THANK GOD!

[Cannon Fodder]

Just in case the H pattern

1 3 5
|  | |
-------
|  | |
2 3 R

or

1 3 5
|  | |
---------
|  | | |
2 4 6 R

or

  1 3 5
  |  | |
---------            <---6 is optional
| |  | |
R 2 4 [6]

R 1 3 5
|  | | |
----------           
  |  | |
  2 4 6

R  1  3
|   |  |
---------
    |  |
    2 4


I don't even want to try to draw a old column shift.   

[zukiGS500]

you forgot

  1 3
   | |       
------       
|  | |
R 2 4

thats the little blue car.. damn british have to be different than everyone else
hmmm. how do i draw an overdrive switch

[annguyen1981]

What about that new transmission that can be used as auto or standard?

[Chilly Willy]

An, no matter what shifting pattern you use, try to stay away from this one:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5419944823518404383&q=Need+Glasses%3F&hl=en

[Cannon Fodder]

What about that new transmission that can be used as auto or standard?

That is just a regular automatic with a second gate that you can manually change the gears, no clutch or H pattern involved.  My experience with them is that they are always delayed when shifting.  You could go to a floating clutch Bug where you have both worlds, no clutch pedal but you still have to change gears.

[natedawg120]

  a car could have two 3rd gears  or i just fatfingered it which is more likely.  I just drew the most common, wheres the three speed