GS500: Which do you prefer?

[cafeboy]

And BTW...

Who decided to put an air cooled engine in an enclosure....?

The GSF is liquid cooled.  Pay attention.

  the gs500f is air cooled

[makenzie71]

You need to take a few minutes to actually go look at one...or maybe read some...before posting on this subject again.

[CirclesCenter]

You need to take a few minutes to actually go look at one...or maybe read some...before posting on this subject again.

Umm no I don't Mr. GSF.

Air cooled.

Point me to a radiator on my 1990 and I'll gladly shut the f%$k up.

[makenzie71]

On your "90"?  Your "90" is air cooled.  No one said anything about the E.  I said the "GSF"...and you won't find a radiator on a GSF, either...because GSF's aren't water cooled..

When Suzuki made the GS500F they had concerns over cooling...so they tapped the engine for oil supplies and drains and stuck a f%$king oil cooler under the steering head.  You might not have known this, but that makes the bike liquid cooled.

~portion edited because it's open to debate...rest is fact.~

[pantablo]

mak said LIQUID COOLED, not water cooled. he likes to play with the words, using a term not used to describe an OIL cooled engine. If manufacturers say OIL cooled, then thats what it is. Liquid cooled is usually used interchangeably with water cooled...

not in mak's world. oil cooled = liquid cooled. water cooled=water cooled. the F is oil/liquid cooled, just not water cooled.

got it?

(and Mak, the E's arent liquid cooled just because they have oil in them (the 2 strokes do too), the oil isnt used as a cooling agent in the E's, just as a lubricant. so technically they're air cooled.

[makenzie71]

I thought the E's used some trickery to regulate oil flow?

And I don't know of any 2-strokes that have oil running through the jug...and I know they don't have oil in the head.

[pantablo]

I thought the E's used some trickery to regulate oil flow?

trickery...gs500...

[cafeboy]

 

[makenzie71]

hey it's got those spiffy nifty valves and shaZam!...one can assume.

[CirclesCenter]

Yeah that was my point, sticking a air cooled motor into an enclosure necessitated the Oil cooling solution.

My E doesn't need it.
Hence why I prefer nakedness.


But under Mak's logic we could just say:

It's air cooled because it ingests cool air that cools the head...

Or it's gasoline cooled because the cool gas cools the combustion chamber...

Anyways I'm in a critical thinking class and I realize from all the "critical" shaZam! we do most of it is just splitting words down the middle because english is not specific enough.

[makenzie71]

Actually intake charges tend to be similar to carb/manifold temps...so no, not really.

[CirclesCenter]

Which are cooler than cylinder head temps....

I think....

But isn't that part of the reason you see those C02 kits for drag cars?

[makenzie71]

drag cars?  no.  That's for increased compression.  Wetters on turbocharged cars are for cooling the intake charge...and increased compression.

[on2wheels]

I prefer the GS in naked form as I think the fairing kit looks like an afterthought (which it is) and doesn't quite suit the bike.

[Yankee Punker]

  My answer would be both. Its sort of like Coke or Pepsi, or do you prefer Plain M&M's or Peanut M&M's, or some people say Cucumber's taste better Pickled.  I believe that variety is the spice of life, and I like to switch things up because I tend to get tired of the same old things. And as we entered the era of Bling-Bling Suzuki had sort of come to realized this about the GS and designed a fairing in a way that was cost effective, and that would help appeal the "Ole GS" to a wider market, Suzuki only screwed up when they limited the GS too only the one USA "F" version , but we still continue to customize to our own individual tastes just as always, but to me naked, or faired, the GS will never really be a great street-fighter, or supersport bike, but only a great street capable bulletproof 487cc motorcycle that's easy to maintain, and easy to afford, and can still put a little smile on your face when you get the chance to crack open that throttle. The only thing that will probably hold true for all of us is that we like our bike's, because there ours......

[cafeboy]

well sed  i would love to have one of each and am looking for the naked body one now but i got the gsf brand new and i am very happey with it. btw i love this site but some do need to chill 

[Alphamazing]

I have eaten way 2 many bugs.

Wear a helmet.

I do just not a full one unless it's cold.

Enjoy the use of your jaw while you can then.

[pandy]

Enjoy the use of your jaw while you can then.

w00t! Mr. Happy is on the loose again! 

Arrrrgggh....Can we add a third option? Both? I really do like both. I like falling over naked... I like the models just because ...I'm just not to the point where I trust myself with them yet.

so I heard...

And Pablo is living in his own little world.... 

It all boils down to... there's something to be said for nekkid... and not... 

[cafeboy]

I have eaten way 2 many bugs.

Wear a helmet.

   I do just not a full one unless it's cold.

Enjoy the use of your jaw while you can then. dude do you ever have any thing nice to say ?

[cafeboy]

alpha you must be very unhappy bro'  like you need a friend    it's ok buddy i'll be your friend