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stoppies on a gs500 f?????

Started by chefod, February 20, 2007, 03:56:33 PM

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chefod

anybody ever do one, i installed a stainless front brake line, and damn can i ever bring the ars up now, but no endo, can anyone do that??? just wondering if it's possible to keep straight with only one disc??  I almost wrecked last fall, i brought it up too high, and the hole bike turned right around, but never dropped it!!!! 
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Matty B 500

what with all the stunt questions all of a sudden?  :dunno_white:

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blue05twin

 :dunno_white:  Maybe install duel front brakes?  My wife did a nice stoppie on her gsxr but that was because I screwed up and she didnt' want to hit me.
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Alphamazing

Eh, the DR-Z will stoppie stupid easy, and it only has one disc up front.
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Affschnozel

You can make the bike do anything if you have the skill, you can jump your GS 10 feet in the air and even do 360 :o
But why would you? There are better bikes for that and when they crash it's not that big of a deal
They are ....dirtbikes!
And if you stick some fat rubber on them a la supermoto/motard there is no better,some people here can attest to that :thumb:
Use your GS to learn to ride on the street and if you wanna stunt buy a dirtbike and tard it as you see fit
I intend to make me one just for that reason ;)
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2tvoa

Jughead

I done a Mad Stoppie on a Yamahaha Blaster one time when the Throttle stuck Open.Man it was Sick.Even with Drum Front Brakes my fo Sizzle Ass didn't want to go in that Ditch. :laugh:
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Affschnozel

'97 GS500EV: Sonic Springs 0.85 + 15W 139mm oil level (Euro clip ons+preload caps),125/40 jets Uni filter + stock can, Goodridge SS line , LED blinkers ,Michelin Pilot Activ tyres ,GSXR1000 Rectifier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPRzDenm1w
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2tvoa

l3uddha

Quote from: Matty B 500 on February 20, 2007, 04:17:06 PM
what with all the stunt questions all of a sudden?  :dunno_white:

is anyone else scared??  :oops:

Matty B 500


morbidph8

wow that vid was cool. I don't want to hurt myself or my bike, but man that looks like fun. :icon_twisted:  I think ill wait till my GS is paid off before I start doin tricks on it lol.

Whatever6060

I kinda did a stoppie on mine.  Some guy pulled ou into the middle of my lane and STOPPED!!!   :mad:  about 15 yards in fornt of me.  I squeezed the shaZam! out of the front break.  Had the bike pretty much vertical (with a passenger on the back) and stopped about six inches in front of the car (but the bike fell on the ground to the right side).  Pretty happy I'm still here.  Not very interested in Endo's anymore. 

Matty B 500

dont squeeze the shaZam! out of you're front break, your going to lock up you're front tire, and be on you're ass. Both breaks at the same time, just not to hard on either one of them.

chefod

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I still didn't see any endos in the video or stoppies for that matter, and just for the case, I'm just wondering cause it comes up awful easily with a stainless steel front brake line, and my GSF is paid for so I don't really care if I wreck, looking at a new GSXR600 next spring if all goes well!  Oh yeah and hammering your front brake on isn't gonna do anything, all it does is skid, and scare the crap outta the guy riding next to you, you gotta press it firmly and evenly, don't hammer on it, cause it will skid, and scare everyone around you, you gotta pull firmly and put your nuts up over the tank to get the bike totally vertical!!!
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Matty B 500

oh, i wasn't talking about how to stoppie, i was just saying never squeeze the hell out of you're front brake.

nArKeD

Quote from: Matty B 500 on February 20, 2007, 08:25:53 PM
dont squeeze the shaZam! out of you're front break, your going to lock up you're front tire, and be on you're ass. Both breaks at the same time, just not to hard on either one of them.

The rear brake is useless for braking in homogenous conditions.  On the front, as you squeeze progressively harder more weight is transferred forward.  The opposite is true on the rear.  Furthermore, everyone has much better control of their fingers than their feet.  You can do a stoppie on the GS, however it takes a lot more skill (with the bike stock) because you're going to need to squeeze the shaZam! out of the front brake due to the weak brakes.  At minimum, I'd upgrade to steel-braided lines and put in way more aggressive pads than stock.

NiceGuysFinishLast

Quote from: nArKeD on February 20, 2007, 11:51:11 PM
Quote from: Matty B 500 on February 20, 2007, 08:25:53 PM
dont squeeze the shaZam! out of you're front break, your going to lock up you're front tire, and be on you're ass. Both breaks at the same time, just not to hard on either one of them.

The rear brake is useless for braking in homogenous conditions.

I call BS. Let's both accelerate to 75mph, put a guard rail in front of us, and say you can't avoid it. You stop with just your front brake. I'll use both. I only use this situation because I've been in it. I know using the rear brake helped me scrub enough speed to survive, even though the bike was totaled.
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Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on February 21, 2007, 12:00:57 AM
Quote from: nArKeD on February 20, 2007, 11:51:11 PM
Quote from: Matty B 500 on February 20, 2007, 08:25:53 PM
dont squeeze the shaZam! out of you're front break, your going to lock up you're front tire, and be on you're ass. Both breaks at the same time, just not to hard on either one of them.

The rear brake is useless for braking in homogenous conditions.

I call BS. Let's both accelerate to 75mph, put a guard rail in front of us, and say you can't avoid it. You stop with just your front brake. I'll use both. I only use this situation because I've been in it. I know using the rear brake helped me scrub enough speed to survive, even though the bike was totaled.

Some of us have been riding motorcycles long enough to realize that in an emergency situation it's important to keep the bike in the powerband.  That means the rear-wheel is being slowed down via engine braking.  Getting on the disc is only going to result in a lockup.  Also, panic stops generally aren't the best way to get out of a bad situation.  Try to get comfortable with lane-splitting, going off-road, and leaning further to avoid crashing.

Susuki_Jah

Quote from: nArKeD on February 21, 2007, 12:10:24 AM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on February 21, 2007, 12:00:57 AM
Quote from: nArKeD on February 20, 2007, 11:51:11 PM
Quote from: Matty B 500 on February 20, 2007, 08:25:53 PM
dont squeeze the shaZam! out of you're front break, your going to lock up you're front tire, and be on you're ass. Both breaks at the same time, just not to hard on either one of them.

The rear brake is useless for braking in homogenous conditions.

I call BS. Let's both accelerate to 75mph, put a guard rail in front of us, and say you can't avoid it. You stop with just your front brake. I'll use both. I only use this situation because I've been in it. I know using the rear brake helped me scrub enough speed to survive, even though the bike was totaled.

Some of us have been riding motorcycles long enough to realize that in an emergency situation it's important to keep the bike in the powerband.  That means the rear-wheel is being slowed down via engine braking.  Getting on the disc is only going to result in a lockup.  Also, panic stops generally aren't the best way to get out of a bad situation.  Try to get comfortable with lane-splitting, going off-road, and leaning further to avoid crashing.

I can vouch for this. using my rear brake actually caused me to lay the bike down one time. I try not to use the rear brake at all.  except when I want to freek out cars as I lock the bike up and surf the pavement :) .


watch it some of the guys on here think that lane spliting is of satan ;)

I agree.  definatly need to be ready for an emergency rather than a slamn on brakes reaction.


wouldnt stiffer front sus. help you do to stoppies? the stock sus is kinda squishy
1991 Suzuki GS500E , a bunch of crap done to it :)

NiceGuysFinishLast

Quote from: nArKeD on February 21, 2007, 12:10:24 AM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on February 21, 2007, 12:00:57 AM
Quote from: nArKeD on February 20, 2007, 11:51:11 PM
Quote from: Matty B 500 on February 20, 2007, 08:25:53 PM
dont squeeze the shaZam! out of you're front break, your going to lock up you're front tire, and be on you're ass. Both breaks at the same time, just not to hard on either one of them.

The rear brake is useless for braking in homogenous conditions.

I call BS. Let's both accelerate to 75mph, put a guard rail in front of us, and say you can't avoid it. You stop with just your front brake. I'll use both. I only use this situation because I've been in it. I know using the rear brake helped me scrub enough speed to survive, even though the bike was totaled.

Some of us have been riding motorcycles long enough to realize that in an emergency situation it's important to keep the bike in the powerband.  That means the rear-wheel is being slowed down via engine braking.  Getting on the disc is only going to result in a lockup.  Also, panic stops generally aren't the best way to get out of a bad situation.  Try to get comfortable with lane-splitting, going off-road, and leaning further to avoid crashing.

I was well in the powerband I was in 3rd gear, wringing the piss out of it, so that I had plenty of engine braking at my disposal. We're not taking that into account though. In just braking, I would put front+rear against just front any day of the week.  I didn't lock the rear, I didn't lock the front, I stood the bike up, got on the brakes, and prayed. It worked, after a fashion. Mebbe I'll do some runs with measured speeds and stopping distances, to probe my point.
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