Do pants fall off when you crash?

[vsboxerboy]

Okay so, I know that this might sound weird at first, but I'm a little paranoid sometimes when I ride.  I don't have a pair of legitimate riding pants and wear those alpinestars jeans with the reinforcement and armor and they tend to want to sit low on the waist.

That being said, I'm always a little scared that if I were to fall and slide, that the friction on my legs would basically rip the panst off of my hips rendering them useless.  Now I know that alot of companies make pants that attach to their jackets by a zipper or otherwise, but I am now aware of one for my A* spinner jacket.

So basically is a belt enought to keep your pants on during a crash or should I be looking into something else.  I really would like to get a nice pair of pants for pure riding as those riding jeans were never ment to be the solution, rather just something to wear school when I go on a ride between classes ( ).

[NiceGuysFinishLast]

My pants stayed on during both wrecks, but I got lucky and rolled more than slid.

I'm about to buy a set of the BOHN body armor that goes under pants.. not a bad solution.

[genEricStL]

If something catches them hard enough to pull them off maybe it's not such a bad thing to have some "give" to them hehe .

Do they still sell suspenders I know you can get some that look like a tape measure 

[brett]

I saw pictures of an accident where somebody had on jeans and a jacket. The jacket did have a single loop to hook into your jeans belt loop, but that tore off. The jacket rode up on him and he got some nasty roadrash between the jacket and the jeans. This is probably a much bigger concern than your pants coming off.

If you want real protection, get a pair of pants that zip all the way around with your jacket.

[debtman7]

I'd agree, I worry more about the jacket riding up than the pants coming off.

The bohn body armor looks neat, only problem is that it doesn't have any abrasion resistance, so you'd essentially still have to wear it under motorcycle pants. If they made something like those that also had abrasion protection, I'd buy it in a heartbeat regardless of cost. I'd love nothing more than to go out riding, safely, wearing any jeans or pants I happen to have around...

[The Buddha]

Yea, my pants always come off, even when walking ... cos like I have the waist by my knees and the crotch is by my ankles ... Y'a know ... like my boy fitty cent ...
Cool.
Srinath.

[cafeboy]

Yea, my pants always come off, even when walking ... cos like I have the waist by my knees and the crotch is by my ankles ... Y'a know ... like my boy fitty cent ...
Cool.
Srinath.

                                                               

[vsboxerboy]

man i didn't even think of the jacket riding up.  ouch, man

I really want to look into something safer than what I have now, but I think I'd feel like a goofball wearing a 1 piece on the street in general especially on a GS, but maybe thats me.

[debtman7]

man i didn't even think of the jacket riding up.  ouch, man

I really want to look into something safer than what I have now, but I think I'd feel like a goofball wearing a 1 piece on the street in general especially on a GS, but maybe thats me.

Yeah, I understand that. We have tour master perforated leather jackets, and the matching pants are far too much for me to feel comfortable wearing in public. I know everyone says protection is most important, but if I'm too embarassed to wear them to the store, well they won't do me much good. Currently looking into the tour master venture air mesh pants, with the two liners it'll be a good 3 season pant. The cortech dsx jeans are also on my list for casual riding too, they use leather instead of kevlar for the abrasion lining and include ce knee armor.

One thing to keep in mind is that a tailor could probably add a matching zipper to any pants for a fairly reasonable cost. Keeps the riding up from being a concern. I'm debating doing this since our jackets have a full around zipper, but other than the designated leather matching pants, most other pants only have an 8-9" zipper. Then again the back pad on the jacket is so substantial that I'm not sure how much it could possibly ride up anyway, almost like there's a surfboard on my back

[NiceGuysFinishLast]

Just get a set of the alpinestars kneepads. You can wear em under your jeans. I'm thinking about a pair.. $70, both abrasion and impact protection. neat stuff.

[debtman7]

Just get a set of the alpinestars kneepads. You can wear em under your jeans. I'm thinking about a pair.. $70, both abrasion and impact protection. neat stuff.

Eh, abrasion resistant only on your knees I've seen pictures of road rashes after a crash while wearing jeans, and it usually seems to go all up and down the leg, not just the knees. That's why most of the motorcycle specific jeans make me nervous, they only reinforce the knees and seat...

[genEricStL]

 I don't know that anything short of full leathers are gonna help with impact & abrasion AND cover more than the knees and rump

... there's always gonna be risk on a bike . If you're really worried , you may want to look for a car 

[debtman7]

I don't know that anything short of full leathers are gonna help with impact & abrasion AND cover more than the knees and rump

... there's always gonna be risk on a bike . If you're really worried , you may want to look for a car 

There's really no need to tell someone they should stick with a car just because they want to be as safe as possible while riding a bike. That's the attitude of the big cruiser riders who ride in t-shirts and no helmets, they'll tell you if you're going to cover yourself up in gear you might as well just stick to a car. Hearing that ticks me off, you may be willing to accept more risk than someone else on a bike, but that doesn't mean that someone who wants to be safe isn't worthy of riding a motorcycle.

And any good pair of leather pants, textile pants or mesh pants will provide knee and hip impact protection and full lower body abrasion protection to some degree. Yes, there is a degree of risk in riding a motorcycle. Each of us must decide why we want to ride and how much inconvenience we wish to accept to minimize that risk. For some of us, that means nothing but a t-shirt to enjoy the freedom of the open road. For others, it means every single piece of gear we can get our hands on to keep safe. Neither one is right or wrong, neither one is more deserving to ride a bike, neither one should be told just to stick to a car. We all have reasons to ride and everyone should respect that.

Personally, I look at things like this - http://www.speedfreakinc.com/content/articles/riding/roadrashqueen.html - see the pictures of what happens in a slide wearing jeans and a t-shirt, and I'm convinced that I have no desire to experience that and I'll keep my body covered with as much protection as I can.

[genEricStL]

No offense intended , let me clarify

I'm referring to the fear of crashing , etc ... For example - I own a Heating & Cooling company . If i have a guy that's afraid of going up a ladder to drop a liner down a chimney , I don't want him up there . Not necessarily just because he's afraid , but when you're uncomfortable in a situation THAT'S when the chances of messing up skyrocket .

[vsboxerboy]

Agreed with everything you said debtman

Trust me guys, while I know the risks of riding and its something that I completely accept no question.  I'm never afraid of my bike or the act of riding either on or off of it and never really meant for it to be inferred that I was.  I am simply seeking to minimize those that are so simple to fix (wearing proper gear) that it would be silly IMO not to.

edit: rereading my first post, I can definitely see how my word choice would lead people to think that.  I think a better substitute for paranoid is am I dumb for thinking that my pants were to fall off in a crash.  Definitely not paranoid about anything when I ride, thinking about crashing etc.  I mean the whole reason to ride is the whole clear your head oneness with man machine  road and skill

[genEricStL]

I know the feeling though ... I honestly didn't mean the car thing as a slam or anything . I started off on a 81 CB900 a couple years ago . My neighbor rode it up to a local schoolyard to teach me the basics . I messed around for maybe an hour or so , then decided (against the neighbors better judgement) I was gonna ride it home . I didn't realize until then how steep some of the hills were  I had the shifting down , but as i'm doing about 70mph coming up on a 20mph turn I start to panic ... which brake should I use What's the best way to slow this thing down ... it's 800 freaking pounds and i'm clutched to the back of it for dear life . After I got it home , it was a few days before I even touched it . I took it on a couple spins around the block ,worked on braking , but was terrified to take it back out on the main roads . A good month later -still terrified of it- I take it out on the main road , stop on a dime , put my foot down , and my knee was shaking so bad I dropped the bike . I didn't ride again until I took that beast cb900 up to meet the guy that was buying it ... a year later , I bought my nice LIGHT gs500 . I took it to the schoolyard and practiced everything I could think of and had learned from books , magazines , other people . I didn't take it on the highay for months , just to be damn sure I knew the bike , and knew myself ... and conquered the fear 

[debtman7]

No offense intended , let me clarify

I'm referring to the fear of crashing , etc ... For example - I own a Heating & Cooling company . If i have a guy that's afraid of going up a ladder to drop a liner down a chimney , I don't want him up there . Not necessarily just because he's afraid , but when you're uncomfortable in a situation THAT'S when the chances of messing up skyrocket .

I understand where you're coming from, just that saying someone is better off in a car is a great way to shatter the limited confidence of a new rider I understand how if someone is too scared it can definitely be a problem. I mean, if you're shaking and terrified there is no way you can safely control a bike. But there's a big difference between being terrified and having a healthy respect for what can happen to you on a bike, and riding appropriately to minimize that risk.