The Bush Administration

[Cannon Fodder]

Bull shaZam!.  Once again, that is bull shaZam!.  Who do you know that has been reported, jailed, and not deported?  Show me how anything you are saying is based on fact (rather than spectulation).  Just once case, and I'll stand down.

Family friends daughter, jailed for domestic violence, lost custody of her first baby because of drug use.  Now is knocked up again and hasn't worked a complete day in her life nor has been to the required rehab, etc.

Currently there is guy in jail right now who has been deported 2 times and has killed someone while DUI.

Oh there have been more where they were released on bond or released after 24hrs for public intoxication.

[Cannon Fodder]

I just have one question for you Cannon Fodder... Who the f%$k are you? Seriously are you the spawn of OMW?

Nope, read some of his posts though.  He seems to have a strong opinion on various topics, maybe a little to strong on some of them.

[nightrider]

Scandals:

Wolfowitz - World Bank
WMDs, Nigeria claims
Valerie Plame leak
Alberto Gonzales attorney firings
Abu Ghraib, secret prisons
Haditha killings + others
Katrina aftermath + response
FEMA, EPA, other agencies undermined
UN Wiretapping
Boeing/White House staffer conflict of interest
Intel/Rove conflict of interest
Halliburton, KBR and others/Cheney conflict of interest, no-competition bids, astronomical overcharging, lack of documentation, bribes, dealing with Iran, misleading accounting
Tom DeLay corruption
Jack Abramoff corruption
Bush AWOL in Vietnam
New Hampshire election phone attack

This is a partial list actually barely scratching the surface. These guys operate with impunity to serve their own interests.

Katrina aftermath + response   roflmao surely you dont believe the bush admin. is solely responsible do ya? LA had teh funds to repair levees LONG before1 bush was in power or 2 katrina happened

1) FEMA was Clinton's pet project, so when Bush got office he effectively gutted it. It was weakened and lost its budget.

2) Agriculture and hospitality depend on undocumented immigrants, who pay more in taxes than they take out (for social security, unemployment, or healthcare, for example). The US has a huge double standard here, which is why Bush is pro-immigration reform. He may be dumb but he's not stupid.

3) plenty of liberals believe in gun ownership, however restrictions on guns for criminal/mental health reasons is a good idea. No one is going to take your guns away from you, you gun freak.

4)  A modern or future civil war in the US would be utter tragedy and basically the end of the American dream. It would be our death. Its fun to say "fock the cons/libs" but in reality, we are 95% the same are we not? That is a scary scenario that could someday happen, and most likely be started by hatemongering types coming to power or gaining undue influence... same as in the Balkans, Rwanda, or the first Civil war.

[yamahonkawazuki]

good point night good point, see i consider myself as a conservative, ( used to be a republican,) but hell politics has gotten to the point where i cannot trust a damned single one of tehm, which scares teh living hell outta me. voting this next time around, will be a job and a half. imho no one anywhere has done anything remarkeable, clinton essentially gutted teh military, bush built it up, but in process, spent assloads of money, ,,, as i was saying, hmmm, well, consider this a bit naive, but eliminate the party system alltogether, and have each candidate run on his/her own merits, ie what theyve done/hope to do,e tc , again, that is flawed as it stands, but could stand somehow, with that minor word ( details)

[CasiUSA]

1) FEMA was Clinton's pet project, so when Bush got office he effectively gutted it. It was weakened and lost its budget.

2) Agriculture and hospitality depend on undocumented immigrants, who pay more in taxes than they take out (for social security, unemployment, or healthcare, for example). The US has a huge double standard here, which is why Bush is pro-immigration reform. He may be dumb but he's not stupid.

3) plenty of liberals believe in gun ownership, however restrictions on guns for criminal/mental health reasons is a good idea. No one is going to take your guns away from you, you gun freak.

4)  A modern or future civil war in the US would be utter tragedy and basically the end of the American dream. It would be our death. Its fun to say "fock the cons/libs" but in reality, we are 95% the same are we not? That is a scary scenario that could someday happen, and most likely be started by hatemongering types coming to power or gaining undue influence... same as in the Balkans, Rwanda, or the first Civil war.

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