why the hell are GSs so hard to find

[The Buddha]

Mr dan - Here is a lazy man's carb cleaning method.
Open the carbs drain screw and let the fuel run out. Then take off the drain screw completely, close the bottom spout with your finger and shove in the tube from the carb cleaner into the spot you took the screw out from. Spray and close the screw hole with your thumb immediately. 1-2 mins later, let it drain. Repeat for the other carb. Repeat 2-3 times or more if you still see dirty or rusty run off.
See what that does.
Also check valves, air filter and vacuum leaks.
Cool.
Srinath.

[MrDan]

Mr dan - Here is a lazy man's carb cleaning method.
Open the carbs drain screw and let the fuel run out. Then take off the drain screw completely, close the bottom spout with your finger and shove in the tube from the carb cleaner into the spot you took the screw out from. Spray and close the screw hole with your thumb immediately. 1-2 mins later, let it drain. Repeat for the other carb. Repeat 2-3 times or more if you still see dirty or rusty run off.
See what that does.
Also check valves, air filter and vacuum leaks.
Cool.
Srinath.

Problem is - I'm going to need to find my manual to do that - not sure why I have such a mental block against this stuff - can't visualize what you're saying (though I understand the concept).

[Sicarii]

ok .. you keep saying that the ex is so much better then the gs ... why not give the pros and  cons of the two . the only real thing i see as a major factor . is it has a few more hp and its water cooled ..................................and be sides ... it puts the FUG in fugly ......

The EX500 has superior engine (4 valves,liquid cooling,498cc =>60 hp at the crank)  but it has finicky chain drive from the crank to the input shaft
remnant of the GPZ900 engine which half of it is sourced from

The GS on the other hand has a superior stiff frame, the input shaft is gear driven and as all know with some suspension mods it becomes a true sportbike
it might give 8-10 hp to EX so what...it's a more stable corner carver and that's where the fun is
Oh and it's more bulletproof.............and cheap

I'm sorry but I don't really see liquid cooling as being a sign of a "superior" engine.  More technologically advanced, yes.  But a properly designed air-cooled engine cuts down on an entire engine system with moving parts and fluids and hoses and gaskets that can break/dry rot/leak.  I'll give up a few horsepower just to avoid the maintenance issues of a liquid cooling system!

[The Buddha]

Well how many miles did you ride it. Cos if you rode regularly and not let it ferment over winter, this is not your problem. Tank was coated, its not going to get crudded up unless it had 6 months of sitting.
You come up on its next valve interval. Ride it 3-3500 already
Feel like comming to NC ?? I can show you how, again and do it this time while you videograph it.
Cool.
Srinath.

[The Buddha]

ok .. you keep saying that the ex is so much better then the gs ... why not give the pros and  cons of the two . the only real thing i see as a major factor . is it has a few more hp and its water cooled ..................................and be sides ... it puts the FUG in fugly ......

The EX500 has superior engine (4 valves,liquid cooling,498cc =>60 hp at the crank)  but it has finicky chain drive from the crank to the input shaft
remnant of the GPZ900 engine which half of it is sourced from

The GS on the other hand has a superior stiff frame, the input shaft is gear driven and as all know with some suspension mods it becomes a true sportbike
it might give 8-10 hp to EX so what...it's a more stable corner carver and that's where the fun is
Oh and it's more bulletproof.............and cheap

I'm sorry but I don't really see liquid cooling as being a sign of a "superior" engine.  More technologically advanced, yes.  But a properly designed air-cooled engine cuts down on an entire engine system with moving parts and fluids and hoses and gaskets that can break/dry rot/leak.  I'll give up a few horsepower just to avoid the maintenance issues of a liquid cooling system!

The EX has the shittiest intake valves in the world.
It also has a super shitty oil pan design and is thin thin thin walled to boot.
That's all I know about it.
Cool.
Srinath.

[Affschnozel]

How is the GS more bulletproof than the EX?  The EX is an extremely reliable bike from everything I know.  Also, you can upgrade the rear shock and forks on any bike, including the EX.  They can both be made to handle extremely well.  Also, the EX is not really any more expensive than the GS.

All things being equal (modifications) between an EX and a GS, the EX will always be a faster machine.  That's all I'm saying.  I don't own one, and don't plan to.  I love my GS, but you guys are way too defensive!

Yes,but after suspension upgrade EX's frame can't cope as well with the added traction and  twitches under heavy cornering
And the chain drive whines and rattles after some miles on the engine
But I agree it's faster in top speed and acceleration
And not being defensive,just a lot of people think little of the little GS and they shouldn't

[jdanna]

I have one in Fairfax.  '89 I traded Srinath for.  "Great" is relative

is it for sale?

Unfortunately - it is for sale.  I'd love to keep the thing forever - just not feasible if I want something else.

price? pictures? details?

[MrDan]

I have one in Fairfax.  '89 I traded Srinath for.  "Great" is relative

is it for sale?

Unfortunately - it is for sale.  I'd love to keep the thing forever - just not feasible if I want something else.

price? pictures? details?

PM me your email - can't post pix from work - took some this morning.

[GeeP]

I'm sorry but I don't really see liquid cooling as being a sign of a "superior" engine.  More technologically advanced, yes.  But a properly designed air-cooled engine cuts down on an entire engine system with moving parts and fluids and hoses and gaskets that can break/dry rot/leak.  I'll give up a few horsepower just to avoid the maintenance issues of a liquid cooling system!

I don't suggest anyone call up Pratt and Whitney to tell them liquid cooling is "superior".  They've managed without for the better part of a century.  The P&W R-2800 is considered by many to be one the the most reliable spark ignition engines ever built.