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Started by solosociety, June 18, 2007, 05:56:10 AM

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solosociety

So i was reading through wiki and found the part about frame sliders. so has anyone ever done this on a 2002 gs?
02 GS500    drag bars, vance and hines exhaust, intigrated brake/turn signals, carbon fiber bar ends, 15t/45t, 120/80 front 140/80 rear, DID gold chain, rhino lined tank, flat black rear tail, no front fender, dual headlights, fenderectomy, reflectorectomy, fork spacers

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solosociety

ok so i guess the question would be on a naked would you just mount them to the engine mounts and thats it? cause i dont really see how that would actually save the case and the frame. maybe i am not seeing it right.
02 GS500    drag bars, vance and hines exhaust, intigrated brake/turn signals, carbon fiber bar ends, 15t/45t, 120/80 front 140/80 rear, DID gold chain, rhino lined tank, flat black rear tail, no front fender, dual headlights, fenderectomy, reflectorectomy, fork spacers

Wrecent_Wryder

Quote from: solosociety on June 18, 2007, 06:41:48 AM
ok so i guess the question would be on a naked would you just mount them to the engine mounts and thats it? cause i dont really see how that would actually save the case and the frame. maybe i am not seeing it right.

I guess I don't know where the disconnect is either.  :dunno_white:

They work like any other frame sliders, it provides a triangulation point with the two wheels so that it contacts the pavement before either the frame or then engine side does. R&G actually supplies a tempered engine mount bolt to replace the stock one for strength, but  the basic principle is the same as any other.

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solosociety

so if i was to order some frame sliders is there a way to make any of them work or do i have to order some for the gs only. also when you are mounting them to the engine mount do you need to get a new bolt just to mount them or to aide in stress relief on the motor?
02 GS500    drag bars, vance and hines exhaust, intigrated brake/turn signals, carbon fiber bar ends, 15t/45t, 120/80 front 140/80 rear, DID gold chain, rhino lined tank, flat black rear tail, no front fender, dual headlights, fenderectomy, reflectorectomy, fork spacers

Wrecent_Wryder

Quote from: solosociety on June 30, 2007, 11:34:39 AM
so if i was to order some frame sliders is there a way to make any of them work or do i have to order some for the gs only.

I'm sure there's some way to make almost any set work, depending on how much fabrication you want to do.. but the GS frame is not all that thick/heavy. I wouldn't just bolt something anywhere on the frame and expect it to help much if you drop it.

If you order the ones from R&G that are made for the GS, of course you don't have to fabricate anything.

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...also when you are mounting them to the engine mount do you need to get a new bolt just to mount them or to aide in stress relief on the motor?

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. The R&G sliders/crash guards come with a replacement engine mount "bolt", not so much for "stress relief on the motor" but for strength, so the slider support doesn't bend or break. These won't mount in the stock engine "bolt", but there may be some that will, don't know.

Did you actually look at the website? There's a lot of info there if you look for it:

http://www.rg-racing.com//RGProducts/#4

http://www.rg-racing.com/browseBike/Suzuki/GS500_FullyFaired/All_Years/CP0158BL.aspx





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solosociety

thanks you answered pretty much everything i was wondering. by stress relief i meant basically the same thing as strength. stress relief like when you go down a stronger bolt that wont bend and put stress on the engine
02 GS500    drag bars, vance and hines exhaust, intigrated brake/turn signals, carbon fiber bar ends, 15t/45t, 120/80 front 140/80 rear, DID gold chain, rhino lined tank, flat black rear tail, no front fender, dual headlights, fenderectomy, reflectorectomy, fork spacers

TarzanBoy

The idea of a frame slider is to provide a point of contact with the ground when the bike goes down at speed.  They are made out of plastic which absorbs the damage from the impact and friction wit the road surface as the bike slides.

They are called frame sliders because without sliders, it is the frame that takes the impact and damage from a slide (fairings are not strong enough to provide any sort of mitigation/protection).

Frame sliders almost always bolt to an engine mount.   The main reason for this are:
1. The engine mounts are one of the most reinforced joints/unions on a motorcycle
2. bolting the slider to the frame would still transfer energy (and damage) from impacts to the frame.

Modern frame sliders were developed for race bikes.   They are usually made out of hard plastic.  There are metal frame sliders, but those are more for look than function since metal doesn't slider on asphalt nearly as well as plastic does

Jay_wolf

Im going to have to install a set , to save my baby , i let sum kid have a go on my bike , and he dropped it at 0 mph . my bar end took all the impact, lucky , no damage to tank or nout  ,

but im gonna be riding her hard , so i want to no i dont ruin her if i come off
2001 Gs500 , Katana Gsx Front End, K3 Tank,, Full S S Predetor System ,Bandit Rear Hugger,Goodridge S S Break Lines ,  Belly Pan , , K+N LunchBox, Probolt Bolts, FSD Undertray With Built in Lights And Indicators. 
2008 Megelli 125 SM 14bhp
1996 Honda NSR 125cc 33bhp
2001 Mercades A160  115bhp

solosociety

yeah im worried about my son he recently started walking and when im in the garage he is most likely always out there and i would rather him not push the bike over. but we all know it will happen at one point or another so i would like to save the case the best i can.
02 GS500    drag bars, vance and hines exhaust, intigrated brake/turn signals, carbon fiber bar ends, 15t/45t, 120/80 front 140/80 rear, DID gold chain, rhino lined tank, flat black rear tail, no front fender, dual headlights, fenderectomy, reflectorectomy, fork spacers

ohgood

Quote from: solosociety on July 02, 2007, 06:48:11 AM
yeah im worried about my son he recently started walking and when im in the garage he is most likely always out there and i would rather him not push the bike over. but we all know it will happen at one point or another so i would like to save the case the best i can.

Hmm, hadn't thought of that yet. We're still in the 'awe its cute he pulls up on everything!' stage. Since you mention the bit about it falling over, I've something else to be scared of. Think I'll be installing some heavy ceiling hooks and straps in our not-yet-acquired-house's garage, as soon as it is acquired.

Would only take a minute to strap her up proper, and it would be a cool way to get her off the deck for that annoying up close work she needs occasionally.

Thanks for spawning another idea here.  :thumb:


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solosociety

i live on an airforce base, in base housing so im not allowed to put hooks up. so basically i dont let him go on the kick stand side cause i could just see him leaning on the bike and it falling on top of him. so with that said im more worried about him getting ornery and just straight up pushing it over. he likes to do that for some reason :nono:
02 GS500    drag bars, vance and hines exhaust, intigrated brake/turn signals, carbon fiber bar ends, 15t/45t, 120/80 front 140/80 rear, DID gold chain, rhino lined tank, flat black rear tail, no front fender, dual headlights, fenderectomy, reflectorectomy, fork spacers

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