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So I bought an R6 exhaust, what do you guys think?

Started by mattress, July 07, 2007, 03:43:22 PM

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mattress

Reading through the wiki about exhaust, I read that our pipe is the same diameter of the R6 exhaust.

I found this on ebay super cheap, so I snagged it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170126288765

With it being so cheap I figured I couldn't go wrong.  I'm assuming it should offer a better flowing system than the stock can since this was made for a 4 cylinder engine.  I didn't want anything fancy or expensive, just something to replace the stock can, the previous owner got a little road rash on it.

Where can I get that bracket/strap that wraps around the can that bolts to the bike's frame?  I doubt this can will come with one.

Anyway, I have zero experience with exhaust in general, so I'm asking for your opinions now..  When I get it, I'm going to take it to local muffler shop and see if they'll do it for me, and how much they'll do it for.  What price range am I looking at? 

While I'm doing the exhaust, I'd also like to paint the header.  Should I paint it AFTER i get the new can put on?  What all prep work is involved?  Just cut the stock can off the pipe a couple of inches after the collector? Then for paint, just sand it down pretty good, and put a few coats of black grill paint on it?


Sorry for the long winded post, I just want to cover all my bases so I won't have any surprises pop up along the process...
Thanks for all the info and help!

ben2go

Correct on the paint part.I'd wait until after the can is mounted.This way you only have to by exhaust gaskets once.Some people say reuse the gaskets but if they leak bad enough it may damage the engine.You may have to rejet.Free flowing exhaust = to lean of an engine = sever engine damage.Hopa disa helps ya.
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nastynate6695

dude go to one of your local bike shops...not a stealership though........any local bike shop should have used exhaust brackets laying around that they would love to sell and or get rid  of.

mattress

Quote from: ben2go on July 07, 2007, 03:51:06 PM
Correct on the paint part.I'd wait until after the can is mounted.This way you only have to by exhaust gaskets once.Some people say reuse the gaskets but if they leak bad enough it may damage the engine.You may have to rejet.Free flowing exhaust = to lean of an engine = sever engine damage.Hopa disa helps ya.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that part.  I have 40 pilots, 145 mains in it right now for the lunchbox, and I bought a set of 150 mains locally a while back,  they're waiting in a drawer for the day I upgraded the exhaust :) ... I don't really know how to tell if it's rich or lean, right now it feels like it's running pretty good though.

Thanks, I'll check out the bike shops and see if anyone has a spair bracket laying around, I never thought of that :)

You guys are awesome, thanks for the help!

mattress

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Exhaust came in the mail today, that was pretty quick.

Anyway, this thing is FREAKING HUGE!! 
I hope it doesn't look out of place once I get it installed  :o

The can has a bracket built into it like the stock can, so I won't need a new bracket/strap thing.

Next step is to get this thing welded up... I have a feeling this isn't going to be easy...

I'll post some pics tomorrow, I'm sleep now  ;)

ben2go

That exhaust is like the R1 I just picked up tonight.The end should have a flare and a clamp on it.Just stick it up there and mark it about 2 1/2 inches longer than you need.Then cut it off.You should be able to slip it on and tighten the clamp on the pipe.As far as jetting,It's up in the air.If it runs and starts with no problems leave it.If it's running bad do a search for rejetting here.Good luck.

BTW,the R6 exhaust pipe is a high quality stainless steel and will not weld to the mild steel the GS exhaust is made of.
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mattress

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thanks for the info, I'll definitally need to put pics up, because it looks like this pipe was cut, and there's no clamp.  maybe I'm wrong. 



this is what it looks like



this is what the end looks like.  maybe this is the flare, and the GS500 exhaust pipe goes inside of this, and a clamp around this flair ?  I need to get that clamp then!



another pic



this picture compares the size of the GS exhaust to this R6 can... huge difference  :oops: I hope I got the right one lol 
Sorry i couldn't do better, I was a 1 man camera team this morning...


blue05twin

To see if your running lean or rich, just check your plugs, black = rich, white = lean.  The color you want is lt brown / tan
Pilot 22.5, Mid 65 , Mains 147.5, Mixture screw 3.5 turns out

Even if the voices aren't real they have some good ideas.

ben2go




Here is my R1 it's very close to yours except the pipe is larger.I'll have to flare my GS exhaust pipe to fit my exhaust.My exhaust hanger is riveted on.



Heres the clamp.Mine is a slip fit.Yours is too.Some are welded.

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Chuck

I've got a stock R6 can and an aftermarket one in my garage.   I haven't gotten around to trying either one of them.  I think you have to cut and re-weld your header pipe to make the angle, but I'm not sure.

mattress

^^ Yeah, that's an option... going by the wiki, another option is to put a few washers where it's bolted to the frame to push it out some more to clear everything.

gs500f-gaz

looks sweet post some pics when you get it on there. i have n't got round to a can yet. full system costs far too much all i want is the sound.
no bike compairs, no bike comes close, no bike is better. cant put the gs500 down

solosociety

just take it to your local auto exhaust shop and take the bike to so they can bend the pipe to fit. they can also expand your header pipe enough so that you dont have to have anything extra welded on. i put a v & h off a 954 on my bike and thats what i had to do. it clears the swing arm and mounts to a piece of flat steal that i drilled two holes. the "bracket" is just to drop the stock bolt hole so there isnt so much stress on the pipe.
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TarzanBoy

The stock cans on R6 bikes are pretty quiet.  (and freakin big).

Anakist

Quote from: ben2go on July 11, 2007, 09:02:56 PMBTW,the R6 exhaust pipe is a high quality stainless steel and will not weld to the mild steel the GS exhaust is made of.

Not true. I have TIG'd mild onto 316. If it just has to stick together, any metal can be welded to any metal. Problems arise when you need specific properties such as strength or corrosion resistance.

http://www.google.com.au/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=dissimilar+welding+chart&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

James

ben2go

Quote from: Anakist on July 15, 2007, 07:01:21 PM
Quote from: ben2go on July 11, 2007, 09:02:56 PMBTW,the R6 exhaust pipe is a high quality stainless steel and will not weld to the mild steel the GS exhaust is made of.

Not true. I have TIG'd mild onto 316. If it just has to stick together, any metal can be welded to any metal. Problems arise when you need specific properties such as strength or corrosion resistance.

http://www.google.com.au/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=dissimilar+welding+chart&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

James

You Aussie's know something we don't.Kool.
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DaxFX

#16
did you mount the pipe !! i have order on ebay the same ! and whant to know the status of yours .!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120141174334&rd=1,1
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mattress

hey buddy!  That's the same can I got!  You'll be very surprised how LARGE it is  :icon_mrgreen:

No I have not mounted the can yet!  :cry:

Waiting on pay day so I can go to an exhaust shop.

Let us know how yours goes!

ben2go

I haven't mounted my R1 can.I'm saving it for a 90 GS build.
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DaxFX

I can wait mine to arrive at me ! my OEM can have several holes around the small escape from the back of the pipe and soun like a freaking landmower. I dont think that it will be difficult to install . but i will keep you on touch.

the first one to install the pipe wiil have this for prize
Puerto Rico. Boricua de pura sepa !!!

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