North or South

[RVertigo]

Holy shaZam! guys...  Did you not notice that I called everyone from the east and west coast ghey pot smokers?    I was pointing out the stereotypes from every area...  

If your from Seattle, you're a vegetarian lesbian that rides a bicycle up to hiking trails.

If you're from San Francisco, you're ghey.

If you're from LA, you're either a gang-banger or a ghey, Jewish actor.

If you're from NY, you're an @$$hole that only wears black.

If you're from the south, your wife is also your first cousin.

If you're from the mid-west, you're fat.

If you're from Texas, you're Mexican.


Is there anyone I missed?


And yes, WW...  I was trying to ruin this thread...  Is it working?  How's your cousin/wife doing?  



My favorite place in the south is West Hollywood.    

[Jake D]

I HATE YOU!!!!

[RVertigo]

I have the right to be a pot smoking lesbian vegetarian!  Your hateful ways will never stop me!

[Wrecent_Wryder]

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[RVertigo]

Is that supposed to make it Ok?

Yes.

And, btw, I'm in the Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC, not SC, and not currently married, to blood relatives or otherwise.

Or...  Sorry...  I can't think of a good stereotype for you...  I guess you have to be a ghey potsmoker with me.   

Insulting people takes no skill, wit  or talent at al...

Who's Al?     I thought there was some wit in there...     I thought it was funny too...   

For someone from England to understand why we all hate each other so much, they have to understand what we think of each other.  And...  Go ahead and say that we don't all hate each other....  K... Done with that now?  If you think it's true, then you must have missed the last 7 years.

Democrats hate me 'cause I'm too conservative.
Republicans hate me 'cause I'm too liberal.

So, I screw with both sides...  A friend of mine works for the King County Democrats (or something like that)...  So, after the last election, I told her that I voted for Bush.  I swear it took all of her strength to keep from punching me.   

Another buddy said to me, "It doesn't matter if you like him...  A vote for anyone other than Kerry is a vote for Bush."  I told him that I voted Green Party.   




Really...  To understand US Politics, you have to get WHY, not just where.  If you know a better way to accurately describe this mockery we call our government, please go ahead.

Our current political state is so far from what our founders intended that I don't even see the relevance of mentioning what we're "supposed" to be...  Our own VP says he's not part of the Executive Branch...  That's reinventing our government.   

The last two presidential elections were designed, by both sides, to divide this country...  It's worked, they've created a bitter division between Moon Bats and Wing Nuts...  Great, good for them.    

If the current presidential candidates are any clue, on the next presidential election, I'm voting for a can of creamed corn.

[bettingpython]

Oh my I have a turn for the better and look at what happens. Hmmmm...... My wife is no relation of mine, guess I can't be from the south. So if we are talking stereo types does this make RV a typical left coast better than the rest of us know it all.

Seriously a Brit actually had an interesting question and an attempt was made to satisfy his curiousity and this happens. Maybe I should degenerate and begin frothing at the mouth...... oooohhhh noooo her it comes my Mr. Hyde personality is about to take over.

Survey says your an assclown.

[RVertigo]

does this make RV a typical left coast better than the rest of us know it all.

It must!   


This is what modern politics are all about.  It's not about stances and policies...  It's about retelling the same joke with a new name in it...   It's about photoshopped pictures making politicians look even more stupid...   It's about throwing insults (Anti-American, War Monger, Thief)...  It's about name calling (Flipflopper, Liar, Ignorant Bigot)...  It's about starting rumors (Swift-Boats, Cocaine usage and drunk driving).

What were the REAL topics?  War?  Well, both sides had a "plan" that involved us staying there for a loooong time...  Education?  Again, both sides had the same plan with a different name...  ghey marriage?  Oh yeah... That one was the REAL platform...  One side was against ghey marriage and the other side was against it too... 


What's the difference any more?  Flip a coin...  You can pick one "wing" extremist idiot or the other.  And...  The so-called "third option" isn't an option...  Ever...

[Jake D]

It may have brought up a better question about regional prejudices in the U.S.

Now, those that were brought up in the South know the Civil War as the War of Norther Agression.  This is how it is taught, from what I am told.  At least a friend from Atlanta GA told me that is what they were taught.  It has a lot to do with how history is taught and it has a lot to do with when our ancestors settled in a certain area.  For example, the area my family is from was settled by European immigrants for the most part.  So we don't think of ourselves as being from a southern state.  But if a family has been in say, Georgia for 5 generations, that family probably considers themselves southerners.  

Can some of you southerners confrim that the Civil War was taught to you in school as the "War of Northern Agression"?  Or is that a BS rumor used to scare Yankees?  

[Wrecent_Wryder]

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[Wrecent_Wryder]

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[RVertigo]

I think you're missing a pretty huge point here... the only reason we're NOT in a civil war again, right now, is that those divisions DON'T correspond cleanly with geography.

Not that it can't happen anyway...

I think about a new civil war in our country...  I didn't miss that point (or was there some other point that I am missing).

I don't know that it would have to be divided by geography.  Here's a pretty interesting look at maps of the last election:  http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election

In King County (where Seattle is), we have a HUUUUUUGE majority of Liberals.  In fact, across the entire state of WA, there are more Democrats in King Co. than there are Republicans in the rest of the state...  Now, that doesn't mean there aren't lots of Republicans.  Spokane (the 3rd or 2nd biggest city in WA (depending on how the Tacoma population is doing)) is almost entirely Republican...  And they hate Seattle...  Our little city makes the rules for every other little town in the state.


I don't think our next civil war will be the red states vs the blue states...  I don't see armies marching from AL to WA...  I don't see the "Liberal Armies" of Hollywood invading Arizona...

But, I do see our states being divided by political views, boiling over, starting out as isolated hate crimes and ending up as riots.  In general, cities (and nearby urban sprawl) vote more liberal (even in the Conservative South)...  I can see city dwellers getting tired of the outlying suburban and rural areas.  And I can see the suburban and rural people getting sick of the cities making all the rules...


If there is anything like a civil war, I really think it will end up being cities vs rural...  If the cities changed the way public funding is distributed and made our state and federal government into a Money In, Money Out system...  There would be a war.

[Jake D]

Wrecent: Not really a surprise.  Not when you put it that way, especially.   But if it seems shocking to some northerners, that isn't really the point.  If you're from the south, you'll have been socialized in a very different way than someone who is from the north.

There are really noticable difference in attitudes toward race in the south, I've noticed.  They aren't offensive to me.  But it is glaring when someone from the north first visits the south.  Maybe somebody else from the north has noticed this as well. 

Edit: and RV: if there ever was a war between blue states and red ones, the liberals are screwed!!!  No rifles!  Plus all the cry babies on the west coast would just pass out from shock, like fainting goats.

[Stephen072774]

having attend school in TX and Alabama I can say no, we were not taught it was the war of Northern aggression.  That is a myth.  We were taught that many other factors contributed to the war, i.e. not just slavery.

[Jake D]

CAL: I forgot to tell you one important thing.  Here in the U.S. we drink Iced Tea, as opposed to the tea you drink.  If you order an Iced Tea in the U.S. and it comes out to you sweetened, you are in the south.  If it is Unsweetened, you are in the North.  Doesn't really matter what side of the Mason Dixon you're on.  

[CasiUSA]

Yeah if there was a Civil war now, the Conservatives would win on account of waging a Christian Jihad on the rest of the secular godless infidels. I mean, the exact opposite of terrorists.

But yeah, there is a huge difference between the North and South in America. I can do things in NY that people in Alabama would be appalled by and vice versa. Our country is bigger than Europe- do the cultural differences really shock you?

[RVertigo]

If you order an Iced Tea in the U.S. and it comes out to you sweetened, you are in the south.  If it is Unsweetened, you are in the North.

Damn...  Denny's is the South?   

Edit: and RV: if there ever was a war between blue states and red ones, the liberals are screwed!!!  No rifles!  Plus all the cry babies on the west coast would just pass out from shock, like fainting goats.

Well, all they'd have to do is drop leaflets with a math problem and a reading test...  Everyone in the red states would surrender.

[RVertigo]

do the cultural differences really shock you?

What's shocking is that our Federal Government thinks it's in charge of the States' Government...  Strong arm tactics work every time...  Easy example:  Drinking Age

[CasiUSA]

do the cultural differences really shock you?

What's shocking is that our Federal Government thinks it's in charge of the States' Government...  Strong arm tactics work every time...  Easy example:  Drinking Age

Agreed- another one I think is actually gun control. That has made its way to being state regulated. The only reason I agree with that is because I live in NYC. I would understand if you were in a Rural town in Idaho and police were always 20 minutes away. Would I want everyone in my city packing? Helllls no. But like I said, some people live in placews where they need them.

[RVertigo]

I like guns...  If everyone had one (and knew how to use 'em), no one would need one.    The cause of the number of shooting deaths in this country is not the number of gun owners.  It's much more of a systemic problem than that.



Oh, Jake...  I just thought about this one...  The most liberal guy I know owns two assault rifles, two hunting rifles, and something like 5 handguns.     I'm too cheap to own so many guns, but I have lots of knives and big pokey sticks.

[Cal Price]

Oh well, I really wish I could say "that's cleared that up then" but it has given me food for thought. I supposed I should have seen it coming, this tiny little (but crowded)country has some vast regional differences, and that's just England, take into account Scotland, Wales and across the Irish sea, well say no more.

Sometimes I wonder why William the Conquerer bothered. (Or William the Norman if you come from where-I-do 'cos he never conquered us)

Sweetened iced tea huh ?  Nononononnoooooooooooooo