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Started by Oklahoma_Mike, August 02, 2007, 12:32:32 PM

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Oklahoma_Mike

OK will someone please tell me the size of the stock air corrector holes in the carb? I am referring to the holes on either side of the needle. The POS, PO :flipoff: :cookoo: drilled them out  :nono::bs: :mad: and I think that is the core of my problems.

Thank you,
Mike
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bosozoku

Quote from: Oklahoma_Mike on August 02, 2007, 12:32:32 PM
OK will someone please tell me the size of the stock air corrector holes in the carb? I am referring to the holes on either side of the needle. The POS, PO :flipoff: :cookoo: drilled them out  :nono::bs: :mad: and I think that is the core of my problems.

Thank you,
Mike

Ah, another aborted install of a Dynojet abortion.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I just reamed one of mine out (the one with small hole) until there was almost no plastic left and left the other side plugged.  Works fine, but why do morons persist in installing overpriced garbage aka "jet kits"?

-b.

dgyver

The main hole is 3.5mm and it is stepped down to 2.5mm.
Common sense in not very common.

The Buddha

That drilling till the corrector is about gone is a good idea, however you want to leave some of that thing there, else it will fragment and fly into the motor.
BTW, you can have 2 smaller than stock holes and still ahve the thing work well.
Stock holes are too big, DJ crap is faaaar too small, and you get there by drilling ...  :thumb: ... can you say "making a bad problem worse".
The 2 slides should ahve equal sized holes. Dont worry about bringing back to stock. Drill, sand the frayed ends and you're good.
Cool.
Srinath.
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bosozoku

Quote from: seshadri_srinath on August 02, 2007, 07:52:02 PM
That drilling till the corrector is about gone is a good idea, however you want to leave some of that thing there, else it will fragment and fly into the motor.

If it does fragment, no worries, the chip would just melt and burn off.  Motors get HOT inside and the correctors are made of some sort of polythene I think.

-b.

Oklahoma_Mike

Thank you fellow :cheers: Next time I buy new I am sick of fixing other peoples F-ups :flipoff: :2guns:

BTW So I understand this correctly, what is the purpose of the slide holes, to control accent and descent of the needle? If that is the case does vac on top of the diaphragm lift the needle? I have a mid range stumble and have moved the clip all over and it doesn't get any better just worse. The plug looks good I am thinking it is the needle/correctors causing the problem as the stumble is in the mid RPM range. I also drilled both holes as suggested with no improvement. I pluged one and nothing seemed to change.
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The Buddha

Typically if you need or not need the correctors (WTF correctors - lets call them what they are ... plastic plugs) ... the symptom is this.
Open the throttle slowly and the bike accelerates smoothly ...
Whack it open and it falls on its face with a dry exhaust note.
Definetly slides comming up too fast so put them in a slide that doesn't have them.
Whack it open and it accelerates too slowly = get rid of them.
However this is the killer.
You almost never need it. Why ??? you can fit smooth bores on a bike and run it and it will run great. So the POS butterflies and the vacuum operated slide are literally worthless, and slowing the damn slides down is worthless X 2.
CV carbs are just a bit better for fuel economy and overall less temperamental running and easier setup's. In a street useage situation it works great.
Cool.
Srinath.

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Oklahoma_Mike

Quote from: seshadri_srinath on August 03, 2007, 10:24:18 AM
Whack it open and it falls on its face with a dry exhaust note.
Definetly slides comming up too fast so put them in a slide that doesn't have them.

Thank you Sir!! :bowdown:

that is what I get! slow throttle opening no problems. Whack :o it an sputer city with a slow/medium accel.

Has anyone tried a quicksilver on there GS? I can weld up a storm and am thinking of making a 1-2 manifold for my quicksilver :cookoo: (am I crazy)one carb one problem/ two carbs a Sh*$ load of problems. What is the size of the venture on the stock mikuni's My quciksilver is 38MM I think.
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The Buddha

OK you need a slide corrector in ... or if you have 1 you need the other one too.
Cool.
Srinath.
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Oklahoma_Mike

Quote from: seshadri_srinath on August 03, 2007, 11:25:30 AM
OK you need a slide corrector in ... or if you have 1 you need the other one too.
Cool.
Srinath.

Thank you for taking the time!!! :cheers:
I will do!
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The Buddha

Quote from: Oklahoma_Mike on August 03, 2007, 11:22:22 AM
Quote from: seshadri_srinath on August 03, 2007, 10:24:18 AM
Whack it open and it falls on its face with a dry exhaust note.
Definetly slides comming up too fast so put them in a slide that doesn't have them.

Thank you Sir!! :bowdown:

that is what I get! slow throttle opening no problems. Whack :o it an sputer city with a slow/medium accel.

Has anyone tried a quicksilver on there GS? I can weld up a storm and am thinking of making a 1-2 manifold for my quicksilver :cookoo: (am I crazy)one carb one problem/ two carbs a Sh*$ load of problems. What is the size of the venture on the stock mikuni's My quciksilver is 38MM I think.

What is a quick silver carb ???
Smooth bore ??? then you'd prolly need a 42 or larger but it would work. OK if 38 works 42 will work even better. I am swapping a 40 CV for a 36 smooth bore on my savage 650. Lets see if it works. Tonight matter of fact is probably the first day it may happen.
Cool.
Srinath.
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The Buddha

I have thought of this but never tried it, so do so at your peril.
You take a bolt, like a 1/4 inch bolt and slice off its head and drill in the center so it will sit on the needle. Then put it there and re assemble.
What you're doing is, making the slide heavier and making the spring preload higher. Should alter your slide from a fast riser to a more leisurely riser. How big a bolt and what not ??? no clue, trial and error. I'd start with a 3-4mm nut and go up from there. Oh yea, replace that plastic donut thing with a metal nut for starters.
Cool.
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Oklahoma_Mike

Quote from: seshadri_srinath on August 03, 2007, 11:39:57 AM
I have thought of this but never tried it, so do so at your peril.
You take a bolt, like a 1/4 inch bolt and slice off its head and drill in the center so it will sit on the needle. Then put it there and re assemble.
What you're doing is, making the slide heavier and making the spring preload higher. Should alter your slide from a fast riser to a more leisurely riser. How big a bolt and what not ??? no clue, trial and error. I'd start with a 3-4mm nut and go up from there. Oh yea, replace that plastic donut thing with a metal nut for starters.
Cool.
Srinath.

We are on the same page I have tried that with a small thick nylon washer I got at lowes on top of the needle it did help so i might kick it up a notch and try the bolt.
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Oklahoma_Mike


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What is a quick silver carb ???
Smooth bore ??? then you'd prolly need a 42 or larger but it would work. OK if 38 works 42 will work even better. I am swapping a 40 CV for a 36 smooth bore on my savage 650. Lets see if it works. Tonight matter of fact is probably the first day it may happen.
Cool.
Srinath.
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Manual for the Quicksilver.
http://www.ccworks.org/pafiledb/uploads/2d47c49abf1bb78458027674bf98a237.pdf

No jet so no Bullsh*& just a needle and a knob to adjust. Great carb and Cheap you can find them for under $100. made by Edelbrock.

I got my Quicksilver for my 87 Savage Worked like a champ. I H8 running the valves on the Savage you can never get them tightend down with the right qamount of clearance, but no shims to fu&% with.
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The Buddha

Plastic wont work. Get some thing heavy, and weight it down.
Cool.
Srinath.
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DrtRydr23

I had the same problem, except that I was the one that installed the plugs.  I could never get the bike running right, so I bought new slides and diaphragms.  My problem cleared up after replacing them.  My advice would be to replace the slides, if you can't get anything else to work.

John
1997 GS 500E, Black:  Fenderectomy, Superbike bars, progressive springs, Cobra F1R slipon, short stalk turn signals. - SOLD

2008 SV650, Blue, K&N in airbox, otherwise stock

Oklahoma_Mike

Quote from: DrtRydr23 on August 03, 2007, 01:40:40 PM
I had the same problem, except that I was the one that installed the plugs.  I could never get the bike running right, so I bought new slides and diaphragms.  My problem cleared up after replacing them.  My advice would be to replace the slides, if you can't get anything else to work.

John

Where did you get the new ones from?  How much??

Thank you for the info :thumb:
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starwalt

Quote from: seshadri_srinath on August 03, 2007, 11:39:57 AM
I have thought of this but never tried it, so do so at your peril.
You take a bolt, like a 1/4 inch bolt and slice off its head and drill in the center so it will sit on the needle.

Maybe that's what this fellow was trying to do....
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Sometimes you get real crap off ebay carb sales. At least I had some spare parts out of the deal.

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