Note to all

[scratch]

You tell me what Mod will ban another mod. Bullshit you guys do what ever and say whatever you want and nothing gets done, But when a handfull of members say the same thing we get banned.

This I do not debate.  Until we get our act together, you have no reason to beleive or trust us.

Sorry scratch but from what I read, your saying do it my way or F^%$ off.

Is that the way you are interpreting it?  I am literal, so please be specific.  Quote me and explain.  I'm listening.

[frankieG]

personally i don't have a problem with the mods, if i get banned i am sure i deserve it

[mach1]

I have nothing in perticular but its what i get from a few of the mods and the past weeks including you. I have no issue with you but I think we on the other side of the fence are getting treated like sh!t by the mods and the monkey's that follow, We try to make a good point or defend ourselves and get banned. who has the autho to ban a mod beside the admin? hey frankie shut up, after watching your video I think you have some issue with slowness oh yeah and get a life.
I dont think you have to worry about getting banned as long as you keep using those knee pads

[frankieG]

of course i do, i am in the middle of chemo

[spc]

X

[frankieG]

terry for 22 you have been everywhere and done everything.  i was just explaining why linear thought and speech is not what it used to be for me

[spc]

X

Weird, I really don't care to discuss this.  Good Luck with chemo.

[mach1]

Neither is making good points. try dealing with being diabetic, having a weak heart and hacking up blood every once in ahwile(ex smoker). so like terry said deal with it. your still a dumbass.

[frankieG]

get a room u two...and you can both hug kiss and tell each other your little fairy tails 

[spc]

Yeah, real mature response.  Like I said, not a subject I care to discuss.  Good Luck.

[mach1]

great comeback frankie.

[oramac]

OK- Non-helpful and offensive posts are two different things. Secondly, that is one person on this board that you find non-helpful, as opposed to the 90% of idiotic posts ranging from "Ball-Hair" to Wilson Rants.
Pandy has made much great contribution to this board, and I have never seen her say anything abbraisive or malicious.
It's really pathetic how much you people are letting your opinion of one person make you leave this whole board and waste so much time starting your own forum so that you can sanction calling each other genital names.

I like how you deleted your part of the quote that addressed, specifically, "idiotic banter." 

Quote from: CasiUSA on Today at 02:36:39 PM
Read through the board- hell, I'll even advertise it. It's a bunch of idiotic banter. A Perfect example of the kinds of stuff I say good riddance to.

I don't disagree that some members are out of hand, but we can't ALL be wrong.  And, for the record, I haven't been disciplined, repremanded, warned, banned, or flamed by the moderators, yet I disagree with some of their actions.  That's it.  All I'm trying to point out is that some moderators (which they are all taking the blame for the actions of a very few), acted inappropriately as well, and should be held to the same standards as the board members.  That is all. 

Another entertaining notion in your above reply is that you named Pandy.  I haven't spoken any moderators' names, and I won't.  But when I mention useless posts, why was Pandy the individual that popped in YOUR head first for your gallant defense?  Obviously, you must think associate her with "idiotic banter" over all other moderators, because we have several, and she was your first choice.  I suppose you could have gone into all the mods' profiles to check their post-counts, and you could have read the last 300 of each of their posts, but for some reason I doubt that.  Hmm.

Pointless is pointless, postwhoring is postwhoring, and useless is useless.  It applies to everyone.  If I really wanted to illustrate my point, I could pull 298 useless posts into this thread as exhibit a...but that would be petty.

There is fault on BOTH sides.  Any argument to the contrary is, in my opinion, sheer ignorance and/or blind denial.

Oh, by the way, I don't maintain a negative opinion of any one mod, I'm just stating factual information as concrete evidence for debate.  I will not, nor have I thrown out any unsubtantiable claims.  Don't mix my posts and replies in with the random flamers...I'm trying to outline legitimate grievances.  (None of which have involved 'free speach' as some people keep throwing out)

Here's to hoping this situation is resolved before any permanent damage is done. 

[yamahonkawazuki]

damn ppl wtf can we get along, some ran off, which is why i set teh new forum up, some of them have some helpful info for other riders out there. i do not want that info lost. many of us are opinionated, some, very much so but whatever teh mods/admins did, tis done already so lets move fwd . shall we?

[CasiUSA]

I like how you deleted your part of the quote that addressed, specifically, "idiotic banter." 

Quote from: CasiUSA on Today at 02:36:39 PM
Read through the board- hell, I'll even advertise it. It's a bunch of idiotic banter. A Perfect example of the kinds of stuff I say good riddance to.

I don't disagree that some members are out of hand, but we can't ALL be wrong.  And, for the record, I haven't been disciplined, repremanded, warned, banned, or flamed by the moderators, yet I disagree with some of their actions.  That's it.  All I'm trying to point out is that some moderators (which they are all taking the blame for the actions of a very few), acted inappropriately as well, and should be held to the same standards as the board members.  That is all. 

I did not delete any part of my quote- I believe you should read back and you are quoting the wrong post. I stand by the statement that the other place is nothing but idiotic banter.
Disagreeing with the mods is fine, take it up with them on PM. Publicly calling "a certain mod" a nazi and trying to stage a coup and starting a giant Tard Farm Forum to compete with GSTwin is not making anyone look good.

Another entertaining notion in your above reply is that you named Pandy.  I haven't spoken any moderators' names, and I won't.  But when I mention useless posts, why was Pandy the individual that popped in YOUR head first for your gallant defense?  Obviously, you must think associate her with "idiotic banter" over all other moderators, because we have several, and she was your first choice.  I suppose you could have gone into all the mods' profiles to check their post-counts, and you could have read the last 300 of each of their posts, but for some reason I doubt that.  Hmm.

If you read the following post- which *sigh* I have to spell out: "Making air quotes and writing things in purple and referring to specifically to pandy as 'a certain mod' does not make you mature by not naming names- it's very transparent and childish":

Oops sorry, I should edit that with "Air Quotes" so I can "Imply" who it is in a "transparent" attempt to sound like I'm being "mature" and not "pointing" fingers.

[CasiUSA]

Oh, by the way, I don't maintain a negative opinion of any one mod, I'm just stating factual information as concrete evidence for debate.  I will not, nor have I thrown out any unsubtantiable claims.  Don't mix my posts and replies in with the random flamers...I'm trying to outline legitimate grievances.  (None of which have involved 'free speach' as some people keep throwing out)

Here's to hoping this situation is resolved before any permanent damage is done. 

Not to mix your posts, but I can't help but notice your bias seems to be in favor of the group starting their own forum. I have a bias towards the other side, which I can fairly admit.

And I will certainly cheers to hoping this gets resolved. 

[scratch]

I have nothing in perticular but its what i get from a few of the mods and the past weeks including you. I have no issue with you but I think we on the other side of the fence are getting treated like sh!t by the mods and the monkey's that follow, We try to make a good point or defend ourselves and get banned. who has the autho to ban a mod beside the admin?

Well, I aplogize about how you feel you're being treated (have you been banned or reprimanded?).

And, I guess what I'm trying to say is that no matter how bad it gets, I still beleive in this board, and am willing to look past the political hang-ups to continue being helpful, even if I am no longer a mod.

[yamahonkawazuki]

now casi no need to be hateful toward teh new forum. i am involved with both of them, i love this place, but i got that one going ( as i said in another thread) for teh expats from here, or elsewhere to come and talk. i havend actively tried to hijack any of teh membership here ( AT ALL) i feel as though i belong here ive been here about as long as you have casi, so i know, you know what im talking about. no it isnt level yet, really no rules in place YET, but that is being worked on. i do NOT want it to end up liek a gigantic cluster f[ self-edit}k

[CasiUSA]

now casi no need to be hateful toward teh new forum. i am involved with both of them, i love this place, but i got that one going ( as i said in another thread) for teh expats from here, or elsewhere to come and talk. i havend actively tried to hijack any of teh membership here ( AT ALL) i feel as though i belong here ive been here about as long as you have casi, so i know, you know what im talking about. no it isnt level yet, really no rules in place YET, but that is being worked on. i do NOT want it to end up liek a gigantic cluster f[ self-edit}k

Dude, I value your presence here as I'm sure a lot of people on GSTwin do. You have made boatloads of great contibution on both the technical and social side.
But let's be honest: That new forum is founded as a place for it's members to have free-reign to act like morons. I actually went around to look, and if it genuinely existed to be healthy competition (i.e. provide more help and insight to GS-related problems) that would be one thing- I would be glad to recognize it as a resource if that is what it was for.
The reason it cropped up in the first place is because people needed somewhere to go where they could act like jackasses and not get punished for it.
I mean, just to cite a few things about the other forum:
- Multiple threads that exist with the sole purpose of calling "a certain mod" a dirty whore
- "Certain Mods" on the new forum with signatures including something along the lines of "nya nyah, I have admin power now, suck my genitalia Pandy" (what a bunch of immature petty LOSERS)
- Threads about "Ball-hair"
- Petty threads attacking Me
I mean, the list goes on, and it's pretty pathetic...

[frankieG]

A little humility goes a long way

[The Antibody]

We really don't need to hear about all of this.

The drama, oh the drama.

  -Anti