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Strange Ringing Sound (Metal Loose?)

Started by toyopete, August 21, 2007, 04:58:58 PM

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toyopete

Helleu guy's
I have a gs with 4700 km's on it, every once while it makes a strange ringing sound, like something of metal is loose inside.
what can it be? its driving shifting braking normal,..
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Mk1inCali

Can you describe any more of the symptoms? 








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Dan02GS

Mine does the same thing, I looked at all the post regarding this and I have found it somewhat common. Last thing I read was a suggestion that it was a reed valve and not a big deal to worry about. Funny cause it is irratating as heck sometimes and othertimes I dont even hear it. Probably the older I get the less I'll hear it. I would like to know the final verdict, that said I believe it to be a reed vavle that sounds like a jingling set of keys. Good post thanks. :cheers:
Move swiftly but safely

pandy

Quote from: Mk1inCali on August 23, 2007, 11:50:04 AM
Why is this a sticky?

Oops. I split this post off from another thread that was a sticky, and it must have automatically become a sticky. Thanks for pointing it out!  :cheers:
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toyopete

Quote from: Mk1inCali on August 23, 2007, 11:50:04 AM
Can you describe any more of the symptoms? 


Ill check it out tomorrow,..it indeed sounds as a set of ringing keys, the motor has only 4700 kilometers on it, but you never know.
no problems with driving, does'nt mis a beat...






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dgyver

The tank is known to vibrate against the frame, usually around 4-6k. This is sometimes a result when missing the front rubber.
Common sense in not very common.

Affschnozel

Reed valves are found on two strokers.....

Toyopete make sure it isn't the infamous camshaft end play noise , it sounds more like metal knocking ,harmless but annoying...

many posts on this subject on the forum
'97 GS500EV: Sonic Springs 0.85 + 15W 139mm oil level (Euro clip ons+preload caps),125/40 jets Uni filter + stock can, Goodridge SS line , LED blinkers ,Michelin Pilot Activ tyres ,GSXR1000 Rectifier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPRzDenm1w
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2tvoa

Dan02GS

Oh so those are reed valves, hummm well the jingling keys phenomina must be something else, funny how there are so many posts on this yet nothing conclusive. Thanks Affschnozel glads it is hopefully harmless. :cheers:
Move swiftly but safely

toyopete

Quote from: dgyver on August 23, 2007, 04:49:28 PM
The tank is known to vibrate against the frame, usually around 4-6k. This is sometimes a result when missing the front rubber.

its not that, I hear it stationary as well, its more of a squeeking sound, I hear it best when I put my ear close to the monoschock,...sounds  like a hinge that needs oiling,..

toyopete

Quote from: Mk1inCali on August 23, 2007, 11:50:04 AM
Can you describe any more of the symptoms? 

I hear it best close to the mono schock, behind the engine a squeeking sound like something needs to be lubricated, very odd,..if I pull the clutch lever it still the same.







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ohgood

Man, this is a hot thread! And sticky too!

The 'almost like a chain with a few keys dangling' noise is just that. Something is loose, or the mess in the jug is noisy. Go on and enjoy your noisy ride. Just check your bolts weekly.

DOn't want bits falling off like those HD guys ;)


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kurtr

Quote from: ohgood on August 24, 2007, 02:58:32 PM
few keys dangling' noise

For me it was just that -- my metal keychain rattling against the bar.  I was in a panic until I figured it out!

Y2K6GS500F

I have the same exact noise on my 2006 w 10K miles. I spent hours trying to track it down, but I could not locate the source.  I have (as have many) posted about this before. Unfortunately, no one seems to have a definitive answer. Anyway, It doesn't seem to be causing any problems, the bike runs great!   :thumb:
2006 Suzuki GS500F- Jetted, K&N, Jardine Full Exhaust, Sonic 90 Springs, Pirelli Sport Demons

Affschnozel

Quote from: Y2K6GS500F on August 25, 2007, 06:50:41 AM
I have the same exact noise on my 2006 w 10K miles. I spent hours trying to track it down, but I could not locate the source.  I have (as have many) posted about this before. Unfortunately, no one seems to have a definitive answer. Anyway, It doesn't seem to be causing any problems, the bike runs great!   :thumb:
It's difficult to exactly diagnose these kinds of things over the net without actually hearing the sound in question ,
as mentioned , there is the camshaft end play that produces a metallic clicking at idle from cam going sideways back and forth ,
solution is to replace the camshaft shim to a thicker one, IIRC there was a recall to cure this symptom by Suzuki themselves.
The end play itself is totaly harmless and has to do with tolerances of the air cooled design
'97 GS500EV: Sonic Springs 0.85 + 15W 139mm oil level (Euro clip ons+preload caps),125/40 jets Uni filter + stock can, Goodridge SS line , LED blinkers ,Michelin Pilot Activ tyres ,GSXR1000 Rectifier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPRzDenm1w
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2tvoa

masalma

Quote from: Affschnozel on August 25, 2007, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: Y2K6GS500F on August 25, 2007, 06:50:41 AM
I have the same exact noise on my 2006 w 10K miles. I spent hours trying to track it down, but I could not locate the source.  I have (as have many) posted about this before. Unfortunately, no one seems to have a definitive answer. Anyway, It doesn't seem to be causing any problems, the bike runs great!   :thumb:
It's difficult to exactly diagnose these kinds of things over the net without actually hearing the sound in question ,
as mentioned , there is the camshaft end play that produces a metallic clicking at idle from cam going sideways back and forth ,
solution is to replace the camshaft shim to a thicker one, IIRC there was a recall to cure this symptom by Suzuki themselves.
The end play itself is totaly harmless and has to do with tolerances of the air cooled design


i got the same noise, so i can just take the bike to suzkui dealership and ask em to fix it?

Nas

toyopete

Quote from: toyopete on August 24, 2007, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: dgyver on August 23, 2007, 04:49:28 PM
The tank is known to vibrate against the frame, usually around 4-6k. This is sometimes a result when missing the front rubber.

its not that, I hear it stationary as well, its more of a squeeking sound, I hear it best when I put my ear close to the monoschock,...sounds  like a hinge that needs oiling,..

ringing sound FOUND IT !

I turned of the motor, en while I was stepping/walking with it it made the same squeeking sound, as I heard it close to the monoshock it seems to come from one of the hinges that is conected with the monoshock movement, so I sprayed some gun oil  ( no specifick caliber ) on them witch reduced it for 80 %
unfortunate dont know exactly wich one is squeeking.

CndnMax

good ol' gun oil, i used it to loosen up the quick disconnect on my faceshield  :thumb:

toyopete

Quote from: toyopete on August 26, 2007, 08:44:39 AM
Quote from: toyopete on August 24, 2007, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: dgyver on August 23, 2007, 04:49:28 PM
The tank is known to vibrate against the frame, usually around 4-6k. This is sometimes a result when missing the front rubber.

its not that, I hear it stationary as well, its more of a squeeking sound, I hear it best when I put my ear close to the monoschock,...sounds  like a hinge that needs oiling,..

ringing sound FOUND IT !

I turned of the motor, en while I was stepping/walking with it it made the same squeeking sound, as I heard it close to the monoshock it seems to come from one of the hinges that is conected with the monoshock movement, so I sprayed some gun oil  ( no specifick caliber ) on them witch reduced it for 80 %
unfortunate dont know exactly wich one is squeeking.

More Ringing sound found!!
funny thing happend,. the squeek after lubrication dind't go away fully,....but, as soon as I pushed the centerstand down it was gone,...after ispection of the centerstand I came to the conclusion the rubber on wich the centerstand is resting on the exhaust frame was missing! put on a rubber ring and GONE was the squeeking sound ( I almost missed it during driving )

Dan02GS

I'll check when I get home the stand, but I am pretty sure everything is there. Funny I rode this weekend and didnt hear it at all. It is like an episode of the twilight zone.  I have gun oil but never thought of using it on the motorcycle, good idea CnDnmax.
Move swiftly but safely

Suzuk-E

Quote from: toyopete on August 21, 2007, 04:58:58 PM
Helleu guy's
I have a gs with 4700 km's on it, every once while it makes a strange ringing sound, like something of metal is loose inside.
what can it be? its driving shifting braking normal,..
P


Mine did this. Remedy? I took all the other keys off my key chain.  :laugh:

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