Move from the GS to a bandit 1200s not happy want a smaller bike now

[Cozzy]

After moving from the GS500 to the bandit 1200, I am not that happy with the bandit cuz it is too heavy I find out on the bandit it is harder for me to keep up with the faster rider cuz it it drags pegs. With I out gs I can keep up with them on the coner but now it is never possible for me to keep up with them, I need to go alot fast on the stright to keep up with them.  And I can hardly use most of the power of the bike.

and I drop the big bandit in a slow speed coner.

Now I am considering to get a bike which is a bit smaller that the bandit and bigger than the gs which i can use rev it all the way to the red line on the twisty.

any advice welcome

Cheerz

[kml.krk]

why don't you get GSXR 600? don't you like plastics?
I think the new GSXR 06+ are very sweet! Haven'r ridden any but my neghbour has got 06 GSXR 750 and he loves it. He moved from SV650 to GSXR and he doesn't complain!

Cheers
KaMeL

[NWDave]

I have a 500 and baught a GSXR600K7, it is very very nice.  And stupid fast.  If you don't pick and choose when to get on it, if at all, you could find yourself in alot of trouble.

[510]

Don't like plastics get the sv650 non s verison. It's got that fuel injected goodness I hear.

[pantablo]

After moving from the GS500 to the bandit 1200, I am not that happy with the bandit cuz it is too heavy I find out on the bandit it is harder for me to keep up with the faster rider cuz it it drags pegs. With I out gs I can keep up with them on the coner but now it is never possible for me to keep up with them, I need to go alot fast on the stright to keep up with them.  And I can hardly use most of the power of the bike.

and I drop the big bandit in a slow speed coner.

Now I am considering to get a bike which is a bit smaller that the bandit and bigger than the gs which i can use rev it all the way to the red line on the twisty.

any advice welcome

Cheerz

you have to ride the bandit differently than you do the gs. I ride with some very fast people and while they all have a bandit and another bike (most of them), they still take their bandits to the track from time to time and are stupid fast on the track...we're talking race group fast...and yes, at good lean angle you will drag pegs, at faster lean angles you will also drag the front portion of the exhaust can.

[yamahonkawazuki]

After moving from the GS500 to the bandit 1200, I am not that happy with the bandit cuz it is too heavy I find out on the bandit it is harder for me to keep up with the faster rider cuz it it drags pegs. With I out gs I can keep up with them on the coner but now it is never possible for me to keep up with them, I need to go alot fast on the stright to keep up with them.  And I can hardly use most of the power of the bike.

and I drop the big bandit in a slow speed coner.

Now I am considering to get a bike which is a bit smaller that the bandit and bigger than the gs which i can use rev it all the way to the red line on the twisty.

any advice welcome

Cheerz

you have to ride the bandit differently than you do the gs. I ride with some very fast people and while they all have a bandit and another bike (most of them), they still take their bandits to the track from time to time and are stupid fast on the track...we're talking race group fast...and yes, at good lean angle you will drag pegs, at faster lean angles you will also drag the front portion of the exhaust can.

yes you will pablo. i rode a friends 1200 bandit, and freaked his ass out when i did that  ( he was goin to change the can anyway)

[Cozzy]

After moving from the GS500 to the bandit 1200, I am not that happy with the bandit cuz it is too heavy I find out on the bandit it is harder for me to keep up with the faster rider cuz it it drags pegs. With I out gs I can keep up with them on the coner but now it is never possible for me to keep up with them, I need to go alot fast on the stright to keep up with them.  And I can hardly use most of the power of the bike.

and I drop the big bandit in a slow speed coner.

Now I am considering to get a bike which is a bit smaller that the bandit and bigger than the gs which i can use rev it all the way to the red line on the twisty.

any advice welcome

Cheerz

you have to ride the bandit differently than you do the gs. I ride with some very fast people and while they all have a bandit and another bike (most of them), they still take their bandits to the track from time to time and are stupid fast on the track...we're talking race group fast...and yes, at good lean angle you will drag pegs, at faster lean angles you will also drag the front portion of the exhaust can.

Actually, I reckon I made some mistake in presenting my problem, "harder" mean it takes me alot more energy, and I don't like draging the pegs.
I reckon it is not so suitable for my daily rider the 30km in city stop and go traffic, it is killing me in the city ride, it weight is sort of killing me.

Cheerz

[ohgood]

hey cozzy

i'm somewhat surprised and at the same time pleased the bandit was heavy enough to make you want to go lighter. you provided insight to my next purchase. thanks !

if you want to step up slightly in power and keep a FUN light ride - check these out:

ninja 500ex (500r later versions)
ninja 636 (people rave about these)
gsx-r 600 (crazzzy fast)
R6  ( low end torque isn't there, you may hate it for commuting )

Hey, while you're at it, what about supermotards ? they have alot of suspension, low end grunt, and are cool as cucumbers

Enjoy your search, keep us informed 

[Cozzy]

Dude, the bandit is so heavy that, you have to hang out alot more that you do on the GS and it ground clearence is really bad, I reckon the SV 650s or maybe Z750 would be my next bike.

My advice is if you are kinda strong and not too care about the ground clearance go for the bandit ( it is a sport touring bike) . otherwise get a bike at the 600-1000 mark.

[Mk1inCali]

Actually, I reckon I made some mistake in presenting my problem, "harder" mean it takes me alot more energy, and I don't like draging the pegs.
I reckon it is not so suitable for my daily rider the 30km in city stop and go traffic, it is killing me in the city ride, it weight is sort of killing me.

That's why the GS500 still sells, and the SV (-S) is so wildly popular.  People need commuter bikes, and litre (+) bikes don't make great commuters.  Heavier, not as responsive, mileage is not as good as smaller bikes, etc etc. 

Any of the "Supersport" 600s won't make great commuters, way too much weight on the wrists, and pretty cramped in the legs in general.  Power delivery is for the track, not stop-n-go traffic either.  Check out an FZ6 if you are looking for a (semi-) naked commuter, they are much better in the midrange, and still plenty sporty for when that time comes too.  Gotta throw the Ducati Monster in there too, they make great commuters, albeit a bit more expensive to maintain, but not as bad as most think.

[NWDave]

Any of the "Supersport" 600s won't make great commuters, way too much weight on the wrists, and pretty cramped in the legs in general.  Power delivery is for the track, not stop-n-go traffic either.

I have to disagree, I'm 5'10 and find my GSXR600 to be more comfortable than my 500.  Long distance and commuting.

[Cozzy]

Any of the "Supersport" 600s won't make great commuters, way too much weight on the wrists, and pretty cramped in the legs in general.  Power delivery is for the track, not stop-n-go traffic either.

I have to disagree, I'm 5'10 and find my GSXR600 to be more comfortable than my 500.  Long distance and commuting.

I what a bike that can commute better, offer better fuel milage and still have some dash on the twisty.

I made up my shopping list already, one the bandit is repaired I will get a 600-750

ZR750/ZR750S the older oil cool one (hard to find in the local market)
Monter 600                                   (everyone think this bike is underpower)
SVS   03+                                     (I reckon this on is one of the best in the group)
KTM duke II                                  (supermoto is kinda good for the daily communte)
drz-sm                                          (400 sounds a bit too small)
cb600f                                         (personally don't like honda much)
FZ6                                              (personally don't like yahama much)

Should I also consider the supersport as well?

[kml.krk]

what about new fuel injected GSX650F ? Did you consider that?
Cheers
KaMeL

[toyopete]

After moving from the GS500 to the bandit 1200, I am not that happy with the bandit cuz it is too heavy I find out on the bandit it is harder for me to keep up with the faster rider cuz it it drags pegs. With I out gs I can keep up with them on the coner but now it is never possible for me to keep up with them, I need to go alot fast on the stright to keep up with them.  And I can hardly use most of the power of the bike.

and I drop the big bandit in a slow speed coner.

Now I am considering to get a bike which is a bit smaller that the bandit and bigger than the gs which i can use rev it all the way to the red line on the twisty.

any advice welcome

Cheerz

hello Friend here's the answer to your "problems" try test driving the  Suz SV 650n or better the SV 1000 N, you will be pleasantly surprised,..

[frankieG]

the sv1000 is pretty heavy and high....i've rode and raced them extensively. 

[NWDave]

Unless your going for the naked look I wouldn't rule out the GSXR.  Hell I had a deposit down on a B-King and picked up the GSXR after sitting on it.  They don't let you test ride at the dealership in town, I don't regret it one bit.  We'll see how I feel about that after I get passed by a B-King.

[Cozzy]

seem like it is down to sv and sv

either bigger or smaller

Cheerz

[pantablo]

Any of the "Supersport" 600s won't make great commuters, way too much weight on the wrists, and pretty cramped in the legs in general.  Power delivery is for the track, not stop-n-go traffic either.

I have to disagree, I'm 5'10 and find my GSXR600 to be more comfortable than my 500.  Long distance and commuting.

this year and last year they made them more comfortable (but that is a relative thing on a supersport). however, the other supersports are MORE track focused and less comfortable for day to day riding in the city.

Any of the "Supersport" 600s won't make great commuters, way too much weight on the wrists, and pretty cramped in the legs in general.  Power delivery is for the track, not stop-n-go traffic either.

I have to disagree, I'm 5'10 and find my GSXR600 to be more comfortable than my 500.  Long distance and commuting.

I what a bike that can commute better, offer better fuel milage and still have some dash on the twisty.

I made up my shopping list already, one the bandit is repaired I will get a 600-750

ZR750/ZR750S the older oil cool one (hard to find in the local market)
Monter 600                                   (everyone think this bike is underpower)
SVS   03+                                     (I reckon this on is one of the best in the group)
KTM duke II                                  (supermoto is kinda good for the daily communte)
drz-sm                                          (400 sounds a bit too small)
cb600f                                         (personally don't like honda much)
FZ6                                              (personally don't like yahama much)

Should I also consider the supersport as well?

of your list:
ZR750/ZR750S the older oil cool one (hard to find in the local market)
dont know anything except they were never popular so they sold little. probably a great, underappreciated bike. I think the S looks odd.

Monster 620 
I heard they're not too comfortable-long, long reach to the bars and a heavy clutch pull makes them not great in the city. also , the dry clutch ducs (not sure if the 620 is a dry or wet clutch) but the dry clutch models arent particularly good in stop and go. very similar to the SV, only more beautiful.

SVS   03+
probably right. the naked version is right up your alley. the S has the same sitting position/pegs/clip on relationship as the gsxr and its a pain in town.
KTM duke II   
people love this bike for canyon runs and for dashing around town on short trips. for longer commutes you'll likely want something more 'plush'.

drz-sm   
same as above, but buzzy

cb600f 
what do you mean you dont like honda, lol? this is a barcolounger compared to the current supersports. uber comfortable for a sport bike. a standard will probably still trump it in comfort.

FZ6
yams are good, but this one is a revvy one for what it is. very high strung, just like the R6 is the most high strung of the SS bikes. all power up top, not in a good way. I think they're ugly to boot. I'd take an SV over this any day.

[spc]

the m620 is a wet clutch so no worries there.   Though it doesn't have all that much more power than the GS.
Look at the 750 up.  Through the years they've come in 750, 800,  900, 1000.  Those will all have a noticeable power improvement over the GS.
CB600-looks like this or it's big brother will be my next bike.  I love the lines of em and the price is much nicer than it's italian bred cousins.  Bang for buck the 599 is probably a better bike than the 919.  As I recall the 599 puts in the mid 90's down on the wheel and the 919 only puts a little over 110.  I've heard great things about these bikes.  Everything from they are great for long distances to them being very competent on track.

[Cozzy]

ok now it is down to
03+ svs
KTM duke II

and how does the er6n feel an inline twin just like the gs500 but it seems to make more power