Re-jet'd and now it wont run...

[Fast Jetta 97]

Yeah, so i just watched that whole video and it looks pretty straigh forward and easy...

The only thing is... where can i get the shims from and where can i get the tool from (if i even need it, and for 30 bucks for that lil tool i will prolly jsut mak it happen myself) but mainly i just need the shims... and what range should they be... i think he said .4 - .8

[Affschnozel]

First check clearances, the only tool you'll need is feeler gauge ranging 0.03mm ~1mm

Proper clearance is 0.03-0.08 mm

[Fast Jetta 97]

yeah, i feel ya, im just saying where do i get that... would like a napa, pep boys, auto zone, orielly's....

[DrtRydr23]

Then we got a lil diagram type pic of the carbs...



Then a lil comparison of the jets...

Your floats and OEM jets look pretty worked over.  Along with valve clearances, you should probably give the carbs a good once over.  You can pick up feeler gauges at most auto parts stores.  I bought a set at Autozone, but the smallest was .032mm or something like that.  It's probably close enough though.  I bought a valve shim tool from Dennis Kirk I think, and you can get the shims from a local dealer or bikebandit.com.  Just a note, the shims that I bought when I did my valves were just a little small and were marked with a Y (i.e. Y265).  I don't know if they are for yamahas or what, but the suzuki shims they had at the dealer were way too small (diameter wise).  The new one is a little small, but still works.

[kml.krk]

Yeah, so i just watched that whole video and it looks pretty straigh forward and easy...

The only thing is... where can i get the shims from and where can i get the tool from (if i even need it, and for 30 bucks for that lil tool i will prolly jsut mak it happen myself) but mainly i just need the shims... and what range should they be... i think he said .4 - .8

So here you can get the shims (one of the cheapest sources--> about half of the stealer price)
http://crc2onlinecatalog.com/valve_shims.htm

they also have valve shim tools (scroll to the bottom of the page and it should be there)
http://crc2onlinecatalog.com/tools.htm

best feeler gauge would be 0.01-0.1 mm in 0.01 increments but it may be hard to find. just get something similar and it will do the job.
hope this helps
cheers

[Kerry]

i just watched that whole video and it looks pretty straigh forward and easy...

Glad to hear it! 

what range should they be... i think he said .4 - .8

Hmmm.  It's been a long time since I've watched that video, so I don't know what he would have been talking about.   

Seriously, you need to check your valve clearances first ... AND pull each shim to find out how thick it is.  Only then will you know:
    a) What shim thicknesses you need
    b) Whether you can move existing shims from one bucket to another,
        reducing the number of shims you need to buy.

I do remember recommending that you buy a bound-to-be-too-thin shim in the 2.30 to 2.40 range.  That will allow you figure out the replacement shim thickness when the current shim is flat-out too tight to get a measurement.

and where can i get the tool from (if i even need it, and for 30 bucks for that lil tool i will prolly jsut mak it happen myself)

I'm happy to report that Dennis Kirk now has the [Motion Pro valve shim tool (for Suzuki)] for $17.99 (plus shipping, of course).  If that link doesn't work, go to [http://www.denniskirk.com] and do a "General Search" for part number 28270.

PS - Just in case you haven't stumbled across it, check out my [Valve Shim Selection Chart].

[Fast Jetta 97]

Finally bought my feeler gauges from a local store that had them, now just waitin for a good day, and nothing going on to check em all out....

as far as the bikes going, still no luck, still doesnt run right,

I think i might take the correctors outta the slides, got to stock jet, and back to stock needle and see if it gets better or worse.....


ALSO, i made another post about it, but i will ask here too....

my brake lights dont work with hand or foot brake, but i think the hand brake i need a new brake switch.... WHERE CAN I GET ONE.... i cant find it anywhere...

[kml.krk]

how is the bike running?? did you check the valves??

[Fast Jetta 97]

Just got back from thanksgiving break... so i will finally be able to check my valves with the new feeler gauge...

How bad do the tolerances have to be for it to actually affect how the bike is running....  (i just couldn't see the valves being whats causing it to run bad... but im sure it wouldn't help anything also. HAHAHA)

[kml.krk]

if they are too tight or too loose you'll most likely have some problems. did you watch kerry's video? At first attempt he forgot to put the correct shim in the bucket (test shim was left in) and the bike sounded like a TRACTOR...
so you want to make sure your valves are neither tight nor loose.
correct valve clearance is between 0.03 - 0.08 mm
good luck

[JeremyP]

Hey, srry to hear about the sick GS
I had an old honda cb750 and went through the same thing as you (HOURS!) except try it with four carbs!
MY advice to you is to put everything back to the way it was when the bike was running. Then sync the carbs!
I changed the pilot and main jets in the cb750 multiple times and fiddled around with the mixture screws.
I eventually went back to the way everything was, synced the carbs, and it ran like a champ!
GOOD LUCK!

[Fast Jetta 97]

Hey everyone.... ITS ME... haha, im finally back...  So i moved from my apt into a house and i finally found some time to get back to the GS....

I finally pulled the valve cover off and checked my clearances.... and heres what i found...
the best feeler gauge i could find only went down to a .038...

The clearances are suppsoe to be .03 to .08...

My clearances: .038 would not fit in any of them..... OUCH.

So i guess now i have to try and find a small ass shim and trade each on of them out and then use big feeler gauges to see what the new shims i have to get should be sized right?

OH man, not lookin forward to this...  HELP ME....

[Kerry]

My clearances: .038 would not fit in any of them..... OUCH.

So i guess now i have to try and find a small ass shim and trade each on of them out and then use big feeler gauges to see what the new shims i have to get should be sized right?

You got it!  (Sorry....)

But, if you can at least spin the "bucket" under the shim you don't have to worry TOO much yet.

[TobySuzuki]

I had  a prob like that but it was gettin to much air. Ran ok with choke on but like crap without. Had to put air box on and run a single k&n filter. Hope that helps.

[Fast Jetta 97]

so i finally just gave up and dropped it off at a local shop...   

Mainly to get the valve adjustment done... i figured since the shims alone would been like 20 bucks, then the tools another 18....

the shops only chargin 65.....

So i will update whenever i get it back and see what its like... (hes gonna try and mess wit the carbs as well....)

He siad he hates dynojet jet kits and said he wouldn't ever recomend one and he always has people comin in with problems on them....