Help me decide???

[bettingpython]

wider chassis (which means less flickable in the twisties, but more stable on the highway)

Maybe there's something wrong with your new bike it might need checked out.


The ZZR is damn near identical to the F4i. They are both the previous generation supersports that the manufacturer continued making.

[bombadillo]

The more and more I look at it, its a zzr if I could find one but idealy it would be an f4i.  The only problem is you can't tell a lot of them if they've been stunted or not.  They don't have the oil starvation problem and they go on the rear wheel really easy.  we'll see what happens.

[bettingpython]

F4i does not go up high on the rear wheel easily without a stunt sprocket, it takes some re-gearing to do that so if you don't see a sproccket the size of a dinner plate on the rear thats a good sign. For me to bring the wifes bike up it takes some deliberate clutch slip and throttle work, and even then that's basically a stright line wheelie because it's moving too fast. My bike all I have to do is give it the juice with stock gears, agin your up over 30mph by the time it comes up though. Stunt bikew will almost always show clear indications of their usage as well rashed or removed fairings stunt cages all sorts of stuff will be obviously wrong with the bike. A stunter is not worth putting the money into to fool someone that it's not a stunt bike before getting sold. OEM replacemnt stuff is expensive and frame scrarches are pretty obvious.

If the machine looks basically stock theres a very good chance it's just been ridden not beat on.

[bombadillo]

Good to know, especially the signs of stunting.  I'm relatively new to the whole game and a total newb to anything regarding stunting.  I could tell some obvious signs of being dropped from my gs and dropped the price significantly when buying it. 

[vtlion]

wider chassis (which means less flickable in the twisties, but more stable on the highway)

Maybe there's something wrong with your new bike it might need checked out.


The ZZR is damn near identical to the F4i. They are both the previous generation supersports that the manufacturer continued making.

just so we are clear... i was comparing the ZZR to the SV650, not the F4i .  and I never said the ZZRwas not flickable, just less so than the SV