buying a stator

[vbad_ben]

I'm new here so hi to all 

I need some help as the stator on my bike has just packed in and I need to buy a new one.  Apparently the only way to buy one for a gs500 k3 is to buy it is straight from suzuki for 180!!!! Does anyone know of anywhere I can get a new one for cheaper than that?!

[coll0412]

Welcome vbad_ben, not trying to sound like an ass but sometimes syptoms such as a lack of voltage at the battery may be other things, and I don't know your level of knowledge.


How do you know your stator is toast?

Why do you think the stator is toast?

[Gisser]

Troubleshoot your GS stator right here: http://www.thegsresources.com/garage/gs_stator_ref.htm

Stator application page right here: http://www.electrosport.com/electrosport_electrical_suzuki.all.html

Here is what you're looking for:
21110014....$ 110.95 STATOR HVY DUTY ESG010 SUZUKI     
http://www.accwhse.com/ELECTRO2.HTM#Stators

[vbad_ben]

Because I took it into a garage and they checked the charge. "alternator output 63v and has to be 75v apparently. Asked them to order the part and they said they couldn't order one unless they went straight to suzuki.I really want the part new so it doesn't break instantly but I don't wanna pay 180 so might have to look on Ebay

[dgyver]

There is an 06 cover w/ stator on ebay now, starting at $20. The connectors have changed over the years so yours may be a little different. You may need to change them. The wires used to be different colors but are all yellow now, which all 3 wires are the same.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-Suzuki-GS500F-Stator-cover-and-stator_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35595QQihZ017QQitemZ270192835419QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[vbad_ben]

Thanx for your help guys.

I'm actually from the uk and can only find this product from us sites. Any ideas on where I can find this from a uk site?

I read one of the links about rewinding my stator.The garage I took the bike to said that this would fix it.  Has anyone done this and would you suggest doing this if you don't know that much about fixing bikes?

[sledge]

A replacement pattern stator is less than £60 here in the UK. That includes VAT and delivery.

http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/erol.html#1X0

[Kerry]

Whoa ... slow down there!  Before you shell out any money, take some more measurements.

I know that the manual (which is what the blokes at the garage would have used) says that the alternator should put out 75VAC.  But my bike is only putting out ~63 volts as well (see the first post in [THIS THREAD]) and it's running and charging fine.

Get a good (not necessarily expensive) meter and perform the tests in the flowchart on [THIS PAGE].  I bet you will find that the problem is elsewhere.  In my case, cleaning up the connections to the regulator/rectifier was all I needed to do.

I wish I had known early on what the GS Resources folks say on [THIS PAGE] - it could have saved me a lot of grief!

      GS Resources' 1st Law on Faulty Electrics
          Most any electrical problem starts with defective wiring or dirty connections.

[sledge]

Ben?
How was it tested? The stator MUST be disconected from the electrical system while the output voltages are checked otherwise you will get an inaccurate reading.

[vbad_ben]

Thanks for the links above they are much more helpfull than the haynes manual I don't even have a multimeter to do these tests. I guess I should invest in one. Whats the lowest amount I can spend on one without it being inacurate?

[Kerry]

I wouldn't spend more than $20 for your first meter.  Here's one that I got for less than that a few years ago at ... WalMart?  I keep it at the office, and our IT guy is always borrowing it. 




Here's the Sears model that I used for my recent [How-To on testing the GS500 charging system]:




Up until I tested my regulator/rectifier, I had only used the voltage and resistance (and, once in a great while, the current) testing modes on my multimeters.  But reliably testing the regulator/rectifier requires that you use the "diode" testing mode, so make sure that the meter you get has this mode!

Here are a few $20-or-less models for you to consider...

    [Gardner Bender model from Home Depot], very similar to the meter in the first photo above.

    [Great deal on a Craftsman model from Sears]

    [A nice pocket-sized (or toolkit-sized) Craftsman model from Sears]  It even has auto-ranging!

    [A what-you-pay-is-what-you-get model from Harbor Freight].  Eerily enough, it looks a LOT like [THIS non-Craftsman model from Sears]!

I actually have one of those $3 meters from Harbor Freight, but I only tried to use it to measure resistance on the regulator/rectifier ... which was the WRONG thing to do.  I should try its diode-testing feature and see how it compares with my other meters.

[vbad_ben]

http://www.multimeterwarehouse.com/dt830bf.ht

I bought this off ebay for about 5pounds, not sure if it's any good but hey.

So i've read up a bit on the charging system for my gs500 k3 and am gunna try to test all the connectors for the battery, stator and Reg rectifier using one of the links above. If I find that one of the wires is to blame what can I do apart from clean it? Is there info on replacing them.

[vbad_ben]

not sure if that link works anyway it's a DT830B bluespot multimeter 

[Kerry]

not sure if that link works anyway it's a DT830B bluespot multimeter

Here's [a different link].  It looks almost exactly like my $3 Harbor Freight model (and the last 2 meters I linked to above).  I'll be interested to see how good a job it does.

am gunna try to test all the connectors for the battery, stator and Reg rectifier using one of the links above. If I find that one of the wires is to blame what can I do apart from clean it? Is there info on replacing them.

This would be a good time to review the actual symptoms you're having.  Is the battery not holding a charge?  Does it seem like the spark plugs aren't sparking?  What exactly is the high-level problem?

Meanwhile, if you find that an actual WIRE is to blame, we should be able to take care of replacing it one way or another.  But if the problem is inside a stator coil or the regulator/rectifier unit, you're pretty much looking at replacement.  Even if this is the case, I have an extra reg/rect unit that I could ship out, and I may even have an extra stator.  But we'll want to make SURE we know what the problem is before we start repairing or shipping or replacing.... 

[vbad_ben]

Well only one way to find out.

I can't belive how helpfull you guys are. Without this forum I would have given up by now and taken it back to the garage.

Like I said before i'm looking into rewinding the stator as this looks like the cheaper option. Could go horribly wrong so if you still have that spare one I might take it thats if the stator is the problem of coarse.

I just bought a new reg rectifier by the way so hopefully the stator hasn't buggered it up! You think the garage would have mentioned the possibility of the stator breaking the reg rectifier if it isnt outputting properly

[vbad_ben]

Oh yer and I checked the spark plugs and they look fine.