dead battery?? second in one year?? is it possible?? - SOLVED

[kml.krk]

what may have caused that a second battery of mine died in ONE YEAR. I haven't been riding for about a month and I left battery in the bike, which I store outside (under balcony) covered with fabric cover.
I'm not sure if it's dead but I can't charge it with battery charger I just bought.
When I first checked the currency (today afternoon) it showed 0.00V so it was totally drained (I have alarm system which probably drained the battery)
so I connected jump starter and bike started at second try but I had to leave jump starter connected to the battery cause it was too empty to keep the bike running.
I checked after about half an hour (bike was idling all that time) and the currency was about 10 V so I went to the store and bought battery charger - I connected the battery and it gives me error "SHORTENED BATTERRY CELL - see authorized service".

any ideas what may cause that??

I don't really want to spend another $$ for battery... 

[houston_gs500]

May want to take it to auto store (Auto Zone does it for me) and have them check it to see if it is in, indeed (another) bad battery .  I just had to install the little permanent wires that connect to my battery tender (directly to the battery terminals).  When done riding I just plug into the extension cord/charger - if I don't do it like everyday my battery won't have enough kick to start bike next day (short or something is draining it), but other than this it runs great ('96).  Good luck, let me know what you find out.

[coll0412]

It could be bad, but the GS does not put out any voltage below 3000RPM, and you should not idle an air cooled engine for 30 minutes that very bad, it needs air flowing over the fins to cool it!


I am not sure about the shorted cell jazz, but check the fluid levels and see how they look, do this by looking at the outside of the battery and see where the electrolyte level is compared to the marking on it.

Also when you check a battery and you get 0.00V you are checking voltage, not currency, which I am assume you are confusing with current, or the amount of electrons flowing in the cable(they actually don't flow but its a good analogy) which is a function of voltage and resistance.

[TheGoodGuy]

Not sure where you live but lead acid batteries loose about 50% of their charge (amps) when temps drop below 40F.

I found this discharging thing a reality in the winter, and frnakly you got to keep it on a trickle charger every night if you wanna start her up. I remember when i lived in sacramento, there were mornings i had to jump the bike with the car (car is not started, just the car battery - which is more powerful than the bike battery).. then i wisened up and took the car to school as i was freezing my balls off riding to school.

If you have a cyclegear around they have bikemaster or Cyclegear batteries for 30 odd dollars and for 6 dollars an warrenty for a year.

worth it.. if thats a problem.

[sledge]

Your alarm has killed it by draining it flat to the deck, once batteries have been totaly drained they will very rarely accept and hold a full charge again.

[ohgood]

Not sure where you live but lead acid batteries loose about 50% of their charge (amps) when temps drop below 40F.

I found this discharging thing a reality in the winter, and frnakly you got to keep it on a trickle charger every night if you wanna start her up. I remember when i lived in sacramento, there were mornings i had to jump the bike with the car (car is not started, just the car battery - which is more powerful than the bike battery).. then i wisened up and took the car to school as i was freezing my balls off riding to school.

If you have a cyclegear around they have bikemaster or Cyclegear batteries for 30 odd dollars and for 6 dollars an warrenty for a year.

worth it.. if thats a problem.

Dude, could you have any more stars ? I'm dizzy.

[ohgood]

what may have caused that a second battery of mine died in ONE YEAR. I haven't been riding for about a month and I left battery in the bike, which I store outside (under balcony) covered with fabric cover.
I'm not sure if it's dead but I can't charge it with battery charger I just bought.
When I first checked the currency (today afternoon) it showed 0.00V so it was totally drained (I have alarm system which probably drained the battery)
so I connected jump starter and bike started at second try but I had to leave jump starter connected to the battery cause it was too empty to keep the bike running.
I checked after about half an hour (bike was idling all that time) and the currency was about 10 V so I went to the store and bought battery charger - I connected the battery and it gives me error "SHORTENED BATTERRY CELL - see authorized service".

any ideas what may cause that??

I don't really want to spend another $$ for battery... 

Sounds like you don't ride every day = Get a tender, not a charger.

Sounds like your alarm killed it = battery tender again

I'd check the connections and make sure they weren't corroded. Then get a new battery, fill it up and charge it proper, then check the level twice a month or so. Keep the revs above 4,500 or so when you're out and about on it so it's charging.

Do you really need an alarm on it if it's on your balcony ? A heavy lock and cable should be good enough, and it's covered too. I'm surprised you're allowed to store it there, fire hazard and all.

[kml.krk]

UNDER the balcony. or I should rather say under the porch.

finally I managed to force the charger to charge the battery and now it's reconditioning the battery. will see in the evening if that helps...
I will buy the battery tender soon and store my battery inside connected to the tender.
good lesson for me
thanks for help

[beRto]

I think you might need to exercise some caution when storing the battery indoors; if I recall correctly, Lead-Acid batteries release hydrogen gas when they are charging. Since hydrogen is highly-flammable, this could be a problem if the area is not well-ventilated and there is an ignition source nearby (pilot lamp, electrical arc, etc.).

[kml.krk]

I'll be carefull - thanks for info.
BTW: I rode a little bit during the last weekend and everything was fine - charging system works correctly, battery is fine now - it seems that the alarm totaly drained the battery and I couldn't get it back to life, but it's fine now.
Thank you all for input!!

cheers
KaMeL

[yamahonkawazuki]

tell ya what, every so often take er out for a run

[vendetta]

tell ya what, every so often take er out for a run

I have an 06 I bought new in March 07, then came along November and one morning My bike woudn't start, bought a maintainer and juice it every night, but... Turns out the dealer rushed some bikes out the door with the wrong size battery, they now warrentied me a new battery. the one that doesnt work is an FB10L B2  12V 11AH,  it works but not reliable.

[gsJack]

A 10L-B2 is the correct battery for the GS500 all years.  I use a 10L-A2 which is the same except the drain hose is on the other side.  Less expensive easier to find battery available at auto parts stores and Walmarts.  The first 2 letters indicates brand of battery.  YB10L-B2 is a Yuasa battery, your FB10L-B2 is a different brand.

[vendetta]

I just got my new battery and the story changed :cookoo:apperently my first battery wasnt properly charged when brand new, or something