motorcycle crash

porsche4786 · January 30, 2008, 07:48:33 PM

Not sure if this has been posted yet....
http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/tulsacrash.asp

yamahonkawazuki · January 31, 2008, 01:25:41 AM

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, well not bad compared to the mexican trck/motorcycle crash.

Kasumi · January 31, 2008, 04:45:26 AM

Some people don't learn

His friend died doing exactly the same thing speeding like that on the same highway just a week before.

97gs500e · January 31, 2008, 08:15:00 PM

I saw those pics a few months ago, but it's a sobering reminder to not ride like a total retard

Jughead · January 31, 2008, 10:13:14 PM

Quote from: Kasumi on January 31, 2008, 04:45:26 AM
Some people don't learn

His friend died doing exactly the same thing speeding like that on the same highway just a week before.

Very good Example of Natural Selection.Hate to Sound like an Ass or Anything.

tussey · February 01, 2008, 01:37:01 AM

He was wearing full gear

I don't have much sympathy for people that ride around in thsirts and flip flops but it looks like this guy was fully suited up. I can imagine what was going through his head. He could have been a pretty safe rider. Perhaps he didn't see the small tali lights at that truck at night.

Kasumi · February 01, 2008, 06:06:58 AM

You don't when your traveling at 120+ wearing full gear or not his friend died doing the same thing you would think that you would feel inclined to slow down.

Jay_wolf · February 01, 2008, 11:05:44 AM

isnt iur highway speeds 55 mph? so its over double the speed limit, over here would be like doing 140+ on the motorway here in england , its not safe to do

Ive done very fast speeds , but in a dry , llight open space , where im fully aware of whats infront of me , its still a shocking reminder tho
he didnt derserve it

frankieG · February 01, 2008, 12:25:14 PM

not sure where but i have seen this before

Kasumi · February 01, 2008, 12:34:35 PM

You probably saw his friend who did it a week before.

calamari · February 12, 2008, 07:23:25 PM

riding at night.. is that a smoked shield?

bettingpython · February 12, 2008, 09:51:51 PM

Ok I live in tulsa, and I think we've been through this one before.

Long story short late night group ride he squidded of at well in excess of 120....I know one of the officers who worked the call and some of his friends hang out in places we congregate locally. Kid had a month's experience and if he even had the oppurtunity to speak some of the crusty old voices of reason not real sure he or his friends would have listened. Not that the local old farts are any better about obeying the laws, we have just survived long enough to understand you can't just go ride full tilt boogey when your as green as this guy was. I want people to exercise good judgement and ride ludicrous speeds in safe and sane manner.

I am sick of seeing those pics so please don't go hotlinking the images into the thread.

sledge · February 13, 2008, 04:03:26 AM

120mph??? no way......If he hit that truck at 120mph his helmet would have shattered, his neck would have broken instantly the door would have caved in and his body would be in more than 1 piece!! 30mph to standstill in 0 feet is more than enough to do what you see in the pic.

God rest his soul.

bettingpython · February 13, 2008, 06:31:56 AM

^^^^^

speed of bike at impact call it 130
speed of truck at impact call it 75

130-75=55

Yeah I know the speed limit on that stretch of highway is 65mp but having driven it far to often its more common to see vehicles driving it at 75 to 85.

His neck was broken instantly and his head did go through the trailer door.

He hit so hard it jolted the tractor trailer rig badly enough that the driver thought he had blown a tire.

Personally if a helmet won't withstand a 120mph impact then what's the purpose of wearing one? Aparrently you haven't seem many accident scenes in real life.

I watched a rider in front of me miss a turn an slam into a rock and dirt cliff face at 70mph and his helmet didn't shatter. I also spent 2 years as an advanced first aid provider with an ambulance crew in california and can't count the number of wrecks I have seen.

spc · February 13, 2008, 06:44:28 AM

Quote from: bettingpython on February 12, 2008, 09:51:51 PM

Ok I live in tulsa, and I think we've been through this one before.

Long story short late night group ride he squidded of at well in excess of 120....I know one of the officers who worked the call and some of his friends hang out in places we congregate locally. Kid had a month's experience and if he even had the oppurtunity to speak some of the crusty old voices of reason not real sure he or his friends would have listened. Not that the local old farts are any better about obeying the laws, we have just survived long enough to understand you can't just go ride full tilt boogey when your as green as this guy was. I want people to exercise good judgement and ride ludicrous speeds in safe and sane manner.

I am sick of seeing those pics so please don't go hotlinking the images into the thread.

Exactly, there's a difference between just going apeshit and rolling the throttle open and knowing a stretch of road and every potential hazard it has, making an informed decision and then having a little fun.

Yeah, we've covered this topic before...............f%$king tough break on the kids part, but even tougher for his family. He shouldn't have been going that damn fast with semis around.

sledge · February 13, 2008, 10:59:31 AM

So helmets dont shatter?......maybe we should ask the guy who was wearing this one.

oramac · February 13, 2008, 04:19:40 PM

Quote from: sledge on February 13, 2008, 10:59:31 AM
So helmets dont shatter?......maybe we should ask the guy who was wearing this one.

Not to be a dikc, but that helmet appears to torn (like fabric), not shattered (like glass). I guess I'm just splitting hairs

(splitting hairs...broken helmet

)

jserio · February 13, 2008, 11:09:24 PM

and if you crash at that speed anyhow, i doubt a helmet is gonna do more than make an open casket funeral more possible. my mother told me when she was 17, there was a major motorcycle crash at one of the local drag spots where she grew up. both riders had on helmets. the sheriff's office displayed them at some kinda safety event. my mom said she remembers seeing bits of bone and blood and brain still in the helmets. and the estimated speed of those riders was only around 70 or 75 i think. (they hit a tree face first i'm told). i'm not trying to say gear won't save you, i firmly believe it will. however, it won't save you from everything.

frankieG · February 14, 2008, 11:03:10 AM

is it me or does that look like a white version of terry's new jacket?

bettingpython · February 14, 2008, 05:27:50 PM

Not you frankie.

The pictured helmet looks like a POS to me. I dunno what that is but if your gonna trust your life to the cheapest gear you can find go for it.

I have personally bounced my head off the ground after t boning a car at 75mph and it did not crack the shell.
This was in a Shoei RF 200

The guy who hit the cliff face in front of my slid so far when he popped up out of the ditch that it ground his outer shell down to the EPS liner in a couple of places. He was wearing a lower end KBC.

I decided to section my rf1000 after my last episode and the helmet you hve pictured looks like low density tissue paper in comparison to a proper helmet shell.

I also wouldn't wear a POS flip up chin bar it does not offer the level of structural integrity a full shell has. No proper trackday organization will let you out with one on, last year a local rider went down at the track and she swapped helmets after tech. she was helicopterd to the hospital.

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