Did anyone know????

[spc]

That it's apparently not considered appropriate to call a 10-year old kid a 'f%$king inbred prick'?   The little fucker grabbed something out of my hand at Wal-Mart then asked if he could see the item.  His dad got mighty pissed at me and I told him to go eat a duck.  I'm having anger issues again   Anyway, we both got kicked out of Wal-Mart and I was asked to never set foot on the premises again.  Damn I'm hurt

[bettingpython]

Ahh the transition period back to civillian life. You will never be completely tolerable but it'll get better as you learn to control yourself. My best friend needs constatnt reminders after 20 years that he is no longer a Colonel in the army. You can't summarilly imprison someone just because they are a prick.

And had you spoken to my son in such a way there would have been a fight, correcting my child is my responsibility not that of a stranger, if theres an issue you really need to tell the parent because you come across someone like me and win lose or draw there will be a problem.

My child does not behave in such a manner in public,  he is scared to death of the consequences from dad.

I hope that he never starts either. But if he does he will not enjoy the reaction.

[Dan02GS]

Ah yes I  remember trying to get back into civilian life too. It was tough, first there was anger issues and police encounters, then there was jobs. I'll spare you the anger issues, id rather forget them myself, but the jobs that was tough... It appears that what I consider a normal way off speach was taken harshly by my fellow employees. If I needed something done I'd say it and wouldnt beat around the bush, in civilian life you have to  be tactful and sensitive and speak with caring. Hell I was Marine, I could care less about tact and sensitivity just get the damn job done. I even had to go to communication classes to deal with my so called problem, yes it has been tough, but really military life never goes away you just learn to keep a lid on it. Anyway I value my time in the service more so now because I know I have the discipline to do a good job at what I choose get done. It just takes time to adjust.

[scottpA_GS]

And had you spoken to my son in such a way there would have been a fight

That shows where the kids get it from

[bettingpython]

I give partents the courtesy of disciplining their own children, I give them my piece of mind if such input is necessary not the child. The child's behavior is a direct reflection of the parent's parenting skills.

Even a model kid occasionally has a brain fart, I have no way of knowing how a strange child has been raised so the proper course of action is to bring it up with the parents.

No man stands taller than one who kneels to help a child. Yelling at a strange kid does no good, a reponsible parent is less likely to correct the action and may come after you for doing so.

An irresponsible parent is likely to ignore you or huff and puff and either deny or defend the kids actions no matter what you do but the responsible parent will when approched reasonably will take the proper social steps to correct the issue.

If my son does something stupid in public and he has in the past the offended parties have received apologies from me and my son, and my son was suitably disciplined on the spot, I had someone take it upon themselves once to try correcting my son in public. I talked to him about it later in private but store security and the police were involved and that asshat never received an apology from me.

Out of control kids are an issue that has occured in this society due to certain ahemmmm.....activist views shared by the majority of certain people affiliated with a certain political viewpoint.

A friend swatted his sons ass once several years ago in a grocery store and a man in line behind us tried to physically restrain him. The DA filed assault charges on him because of his activist POV.

[bombadillo]

Back to the days of paddling.  When men had balls, and kids had manners.  There is no excuse for children with poor manners and as python said above a direct reflection of poor parenting skills.  I would have issues with some stranger cursing at my nieces or nephews much less my own children and as it goes "them there's fightin words!!"  I dont' think I'd have the restraint to not unload on somebody that was talking to a child that way.  I work in retail and get to see the best of the best come through the store.  Thank god I'm an optician and not a cashier or somebody who actually has to have direct interaction with people like that.

[spc]

Ive been doing rather well keeping a lid on it until this incident and I acknowledge my actions were lacking in tact and forethought. The child in question had been running around, bumping into people and grabbing items from people for several minutes before he encountered me. This behavior is unnacceptable, my father would have taken his belt off and handled things right there. In my defense, the father attempted to get physical and I handled myself rather calmly at that point, I knew security would be on their way.   The police were called but only because he did technically assault me, I refused to press charges. I did urge the cops to contact child services.

[scottpA_GS]

I think its funny that the consensus seems to be.. If someone "talked" to my kid like that there would be a fight... SAD! that is the problem! Just because someone "says" something to you or your kid is no reason at all to get physical. Words are just that... WORDS! I have had people in traffic want to fight because I gave em the old  Thats a reason to want to fight? Silly, seems that most "adults" need to do some growing up and show your children the proper way to act in that kind of situation.. WALK AWAY

Fighting is for battlefields and female Jello wrestling 

[bettingpython]

Scott you have any kids?

[oramac]

I think its funny that the consensus seems to be.. If someone "talked" to my kid like that there would be a fight... SAD! that is the problem! Just because someone "says" something to you or your kid is no reason at all to get physical.

I would agree to a certain extent, but there have to be repercussions when a total stranger calls your 10 year old child a "fv(king inbred prick."  There are numerous, tactful, constructive, and effective ways to correct social skills with an adolescent than vulgarity by which I would not be offended.  As a 10 year old, I would have been scarred if some adult said those things to me.  And yes, when my child is attacked, verbally or otherwise, I could easily see myself getting physical if the situation called for it.  The instinct of a parent is to protect their child...period.

If my child was, in fact, wrong like the child above clearly was, I would handle it.  And, with a child, words CAN hurt.

[scottpA_GS]

I can see that trying to push my point any further is pointless..

Beating someones a$$ in front of your children is obviously much better for a child to see than teaching them to AVOID AND IGNOR STUPID PEOPLE

And BP.. No I do not have kids. Dont need to to understand the situation. But of course you know better and will tell me I could not possibly understand 

[spc]

Even better what kind of impression do you think it makes when daddy gets his ass handed to him when he starts a fight he can't finish? Better yet, great example when daddy gets arrested for assault over a couple of words.

[Jay_wolf]

Sum Person around my ages 19/20 ish , pushed my little brother over once , *granted he went over there and called him a F**King Emo C**T* Yes hes 11 , i didnt teach him that , but the fact he pushed my little brother over was another thing , words are words , so i kicked his head in , and set him a example that dont hit a 11 year old kid

I see Peoples points in showing that u dont Tell other peoples children how to act, its down to the parents ,

I Agree with Bettingpython Completly

[spc]

Words are exactly that, words.  There is not a reason to follow an exchange of words with violence. Though my short temper has carried on from my Army days, another trait has too, I don't fight unless I'm in actual danger.
As far as todays standard of parenting I would refer to a quote by Meister Eckhart:
"The price of inaction is far greater than the cost of making a mistake"  JFK and FDR both used very similar quotes quite frequently, most notably in FDR's Fireside Chats, but I believe JFK spoke similarly in regards to Cuba.

BP, I see your point but as you stated your child would not behave in such a blatantly unruly manner so the point is moot.
Oramac, I respect you but I must point out your hypocrisy.  You call yourself a Christian, I don't believe Christ taught the ways of becoming violent over words.

[bettingpython]

First off nothing gets physical unless I am swung at first, but I will tell someone that does that to my kid that they are wrong and if they don't apologize or see the error of their ways I will involve the police.

Assault is verbal, battery is physical violence.

As far as the fight they can't finish comment or having there ass handed to them comment it's easy to be tough over the internet, fact of the matter is my kid will never see me not protect him from abuse. Nor will my wife for that matter.

And yes the point is moot because I do actually parent and my 8 year old is better behaved than most adults are in public nowdays.

I had no intent to argue with you either Scott, I was just curious as to how your point of view was formed.  I suspected you weren't a parent as it is obvious Terry isn't a parent.

Last but not least no child should have to endure that from anyone, Terry my friend that was inexcusible IMHO. The kid shouldn't have done what he did but the dad should have had the oppurtunity to be a man about it instead he didn't get that chance.

I hope that Terry can learn from his indescretion, I hope the kid and his dad were able to learn a lesson as well.

Now group hug everyone, I don't want to incite a flame war.

[spc]

I've already admitted I was wrong.  I've also stated that the father made no attempt at a mature reaction.  Had he confronted me in a calm manner and explained things as you've stated I would have apologized, instead he decided it was the time to get physical. 

Generally speaking, Assault is considered the threat of physical injury and does include non-egregious contact.  I suffered absolutely no harm, but the intent was obviously there.
It is easy to be tough over the internet, it's also easy to let your judgement cloud rapidly over childish things.  I would not strike someone over words, it's not worth it in the long run.

I'm not a parent, and I readily admit I am no where near being ready to be one.  I'm just sick of ill-behaved children running around and parents laughing about their actions.

BTW, the stream of vulgarity that came out of that child's mouth after I spoke would have made a Marine blush.  Like I said, I would have had my ass beaten in that isle. 

[scottpA_GS]

Even better what kind of impression do you think it makes when daddy gets his ass handed to him when he starts a fight he can't finish?

My favorite   

And BP.. No fight here, i just like to debate things  I hold no grudges and I am happy that you are a stand up Dad 

[bettingpython]

Yeah I forgot to add I applaud you for recognizing your mistake Terry, sorry about that man

Here's an e-beer.

[oramac]

Oramac, I respect you but I must point out your hypocrisy.  You call yourself a Christian, I don't believe Christ taught the ways of becoming violent over words.

I never said I was Christ, therefore I'm not a hypocrite.  Besides, I didn't say that violence was justified, only that the instinct of a parent is to protect their child.  And I said, "I could see myself getting violent if the situation called for it."  Not that your specific situation would have, but I can guarantee that you and I would have had words had you spoken to my child that way.  To say, "That's not an appropriate way to behave", could have been a way to go.  Or, "Where's your mother or father" could have handled it because then you could have pointed it out to them so that they could handle it.  Even, "Hey, give me that back!", followed by taking back whatever item the kid took from your hands would have been better than, "fv(king inbred prick".

Be careful about calling someone a hypocrite...if you actually read my post, there is nothing hypocritical about it.  I speak of instincts, not Christ's teachings.  In fact, Christ's teachings many times are in direct contrast with our instincts.  In retrospect, however, you were probably just trying to get a rise out of me.

[spc]

You're right, you're not a hypocrite, you're human and as such prone to err...........go figure I've stated that I am remorseful for my actions and I've also stated that the parent showed no intent of reprimanding his child's actions.

As far as instinct, a quote of unknown source spoken to me by a man I greatly admired (has a bit of a Churchill ring to it): "99% of the time you're instinct is right, it just so happens that 1% when it's not has the highest probability of occurrence"