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please HELP!!!!! PLEASE!!! electrical problem!!!!! help me!

Started by JeremyP, April 08, 2008, 12:21:32 PM

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JeremyP

April 08, 2008, 12:21:32 PM
i was riding down the highway at 60mph (5k rpm) for about 20 minutes and the GS just cut out on me. I coast to the side of the road thinking oh it must be gas.
but none of my lights are working!!!!!!!!!!
I just got towed home and now i cant fix it!!!!
When i turn the ignition on, nothing at all happens, no headlights, no tail lights, no starter, nothing!
so it must be the fuse right? NO! the fuse is fine but i replace it anyway. NOTHING!
so maybe the battery: nope! 12.8 volts.
maybe the ground: nope it reads 12.8v from the engine head and frame to the positive post.
I checked all the wiring and everything seems fine.
yesterday i replaced the stator but i dont see how this could have caused a problem

So what could this be!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

please help me! thank you!
'92 GS, K&N, yoshi, ss brake line, truck bed liner, black frame, dual headlights, led underlights, led tail light, sealed battery, 1/5 turn throttle, bar end mirrors, mini turn signals, de-californiaized, katana rear shock, progressives

beRto

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April 08, 2008, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: JeremyP on April 08, 2008, 12:21:32 PM
When i turn the ignition on, nothing at all happens, no headlights, no tail lights, no starter, nothing!
so it must be the fuse right? NO! the fuse is fine but i replace it anyway. NOTHING!

Did you replace the right fuse? (i.e. the one under the cover, not the exposed spare). This post from Kerry might help:

Quote from: Kerry on June 28, 2004, 01:06:39 AM
What Pkaaso said:
Quote from: PkaasoIt's behind little red door marked FUSE if i remember correctly.  The one in the rubber feels like it is in a socket but it's not.
Maybe this picture will lend a little more clarity:


The "active" fuse is under the red cover marked FUSE 20A.  The dark yellow spare fuse is pushed into the rubber "retainer" on the right end of the same (starter relay) assembly.

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yesterday i replaced the stator but i dont see how this could have caused a problem

Sounds suspicious... major electrical modification yesterday, major electrical failure today.  :dunno_white:  I'd give this a second look to make sure there were no installation issues.

JeremyP

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April 08, 2008, 12:35:39 PM
tehe yes i replaced the right fuse  ;)
but i noticed both the spare and the main one were 30 A, is that a problem?

I dont think the stator would affect anything except charging, the bike ran with the stator unhooked before
thanks

anyone else?
'92 GS, K&N, yoshi, ss brake line, truck bed liner, black frame, dual headlights, led underlights, led tail light, sealed battery, 1/5 turn throttle, bar end mirrors, mini turn signals, de-californiaized, katana rear shock, progressives

The Buddha

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April 08, 2008, 01:01:58 PM
Bike will run with stator unhooked for ~15 mins if your battery is fully charged and you dont stall it.
Now you sure you routed the stator wires where it wont get chopped up by the chain ???
Cool.
Buddha.
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JeremyP

#4
April 08, 2008, 01:30:02 PM
haha yup, stator wires still intact.

battery fully charged

no power to anything!

does anyone know how to bypass the ignition switch?

thanks!
'92 GS, K&N, yoshi, ss brake line, truck bed liner, black frame, dual headlights, led underlights, led tail light, sealed battery, 1/5 turn throttle, bar end mirrors, mini turn signals, de-californiaized, katana rear shock, progressives

The Buddha

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April 08, 2008, 01:34:57 PM
Easy - remove headlight and there is a green 4 pin plug. The on position if memory server is a connection of all 4. Use 4 spade connectors and wires and twist it all together.
Cool.
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JeremyP

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April 08, 2008, 01:39:25 PM
right, the manual says red-orange and green-brown connect when switch is on, should i just connect these togetther and hoope for the best?
'92 GS, K&N, yoshi, ss brake line, truck bed liner, black frame, dual headlights, led underlights, led tail light, sealed battery, 1/5 turn throttle, bar end mirrors, mini turn signals, de-californiaized, katana rear shock, progressives

The Buddha

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April 08, 2008, 01:51:18 PM
Exactly, I may be confusing with my yamaha.
Cool.
Buddha.
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JeremyP

#8
April 08, 2008, 02:18:46 PM
well ill be damned.
it was my ignition switch.
what would cause that to randomly go out at highway speeds?
how do i fix it?

when i bypassed it, i used 12 guage wire and all the wires got pretty hot, should i just use thicker wire?

thanks!!!
'92 GS, K&N, yoshi, ss brake line, truck bed liner, black frame, dual headlights, led underlights, led tail light, sealed battery, 1/5 turn throttle, bar end mirrors, mini turn signals, de-californiaized, katana rear shock, progressives

JeremyP

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April 08, 2008, 04:54:26 PM
well, i hotwired it! and its alive!

but now there is more problems!!!!
arrrrrggghhh
'92 GS, K&N, yoshi, ss brake line, truck bed liner, black frame, dual headlights, led underlights, led tail light, sealed battery, 1/5 turn throttle, bar end mirrors, mini turn signals, de-californiaized, katana rear shock, progressives

The Buddha

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April 08, 2008, 05:59:10 PM
12 gauge ... you using multi strand or single ... anyway, warm is OK, and you planning to fix it ... not just hot wire it right ??? then hot is fine, just open and clean your lock's lower 1/2. bad springs and bad contacts are my guess.
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JeremyP

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April 08, 2008, 07:08:20 PM
how do i open it!?!?!?

thanks buddha!
'92 GS, K&N, yoshi, ss brake line, truck bed liner, black frame, dual headlights, led underlights, led tail light, sealed battery, 1/5 turn throttle, bar end mirrors, mini turn signals, de-californiaized, katana rear shock, progressives

sledge

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April 09, 2008, 02:05:03 AM
Quote from: JeremyP on April 08, 2008, 07:08:20 PM
how do i open it!?!?!?


You dont.........you have buy a new one.

GS500F-K8

#13
April 09, 2008, 08:19:12 AM
Have you tried seperating & cleaning your electrical connector blocks with WD40 as you may have a bad connection due to some corrosion or other. It can happen !

The Buddha

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April 09, 2008, 08:53:17 AM
I open the buggers all the time. Suzuki ones have 2 screws on the under side and they sort of clip and slide on types. Inside it, it will have 2-3 C shaped copper things and a spring under each of them. You can access that part by removing the clipped on snaps - very very careful here, you break it, its toast.
Its delicate and small sheite ... but doable. re assemble the same way. Then test it before fitting on the bike.
Cool.
Buddha.
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