is this fair?

[jserio]

I love YOU

[Jay_wolf]

Dont No why u think Hepitis C or Frankies Health is a Joke.....

[jserio]

i wasn't saying frakie's health or hep was a joke at all. i was just being...well...me.... best wishes to you frankie...really...your health is way more important than any job. 

[Jay_wolf]

I wasn't  saying say it to you Jserio , To The Formally ImportBabe.... Who doesnt no what Babe Is

[yooblonder]

Back to the topic...  There may be justifiable reason for an employer to request and use medical information, but employers generally shouldn't need it for most jobs, and definitely should never abuse it.

Those with management responsibility can probably see the benefit of having some information for exceptional circumstances, and all should recognise the importance of maintaining utmost integrity whether acting on behalf of the employer or the employee.

[Cal Price]

In my occasion promotions & sales job I work with a guy who has HepC. It does not bother me nor any of the others as far as I know.

Secondly, someone has reported this thread as possibly blasphemous, presumably the stuff towards the end of page two, other mods mat not agree but i have no intention to do anything about it. I accept that some people who are deeply Christian might be offended by the phraseology but I don't think it was deliberatly offensive and perhaps we could all benefit from a deep breath and a more mature attitude to others with whom we may or may not agree.

[sledge]

"Dont spit up your fish and chips"?  I like that one............. In fact I would go as far as saying its absolutley "Spiffing" what do you say chaps? 

Must dash.......time for tea.

[Jay_wolf]

It Is Indeed Spiffing My Fine Fellow ,

[Revere2]

Ok.......that word "cracker". I happen to know a little something about that word. That was "the guy" that "carried around" and "occasionally used"............."the whip". He rode along on horseback or sometimes walked down the cotton rows. He "made sure" that productivity was the order of the day and made use of the whip for fine tuning processes. He could instantly "upramp" and "pool resources" and set new benchmarks. A win-win, net-net occured everyday. The Plantation  Master got wealthier and you didn't get your ass whipped if you were a "jump steady". A cracker was usually white but could be black as well.

On a side note: There ain't nothing like the smell of a new 8 plat leather whip and good tight fitting leather gloves or the smell of the interior of a brand new automobile.

[jhutch2115]

Hep is a blood born pathogen that can live out side of the body for a goosd amount of time unlike HIV/AIDS which die quite fast. The only time an employer should have access to this information is if you work with the public in a way inwhich there could be a possibility of a transference of the pathogen, i.e. working in a resteraunt, a nurse, dental hygenist, or in my case I was an addictions counselor at a methadone clinic where a majority of the Patients used herion intravienously, and we did urinalysis and handled (using universal percausions) the urin. Now lets say I was a draftsman and my boss wanted to know my Hep stat or anyother health concsrns I would be concerened and would seek counsel. Now, If I had Hep C I  would definitaly would be working closely with my M.D. and watch my liver functioning, we had more people dying from the complications related to Hep C than HIV/ AIDS. -- If anyone has questions let me know. - JIM:)

[Jughead]

Well my Point of View.I have nothing Against Anyone with Hep C.But in my Line of work I would like to Know if they Do Have Hep C.Say I was Working with you Frankie and You Accidently Cut your Finger Off with a Skill Saw or Chain Saw ETC. and I had to Administer First Aid.I would Like to at least Have a Warning on How to Be Prepared to Help.Like with HIV or any Other Blood Borne Disease you should have Enough Consideration to warn People.In most Cases people will Have less of a Problem than when they Do Find out the Hard way.
From What I was Taught in School Hep C will live in Open Air on a Surface for 7 Days Straight.We Were told that IF we did Encounter Any Drops of Blood on Desks,Tables or Chairs to Let the Teacher Know to Help Prevent the Spread.When I was in School there was A Lot of Kids that Had it.I have a Family Member that Does Have Hep C and I try to Steer Clear of them.Not just Because of the Hep C but because of What else He Could be Carrying.Since I was into Landscaping and Garbage Pick up several Years Ago I had thoughts of Getting the Hep A &B Immunizations to be Safe.I'm still Afraid that I could be Carrying the Hep C Virus from a F%$# up on my Part.It wasn't Drug Related but was only from Getting My Sugar Checked in Hopes that my Uncle would Also Get His Checked Afterwards.Unknown at the time they were Ex Needle Junkies with No Consideration for those Around them.Especially my Uncle who had Conjestive Heart Failure and Emphesima.

[frankieG]

so i lost my job.  the doctor said i was unable to work full time, part time at best depending on my medical appointments and treatment.  i had to be careful what i said because he was asking about my driving and i was scared he would restrict or heaven forbid take away my drivers license.  so here i am back in the same ol boat..no job and just sitting on my ask marking appointments and when to take medication on my calendar     i did mention going on my road trip and he shot that down right on the spot.

[bettingpython]

Sorry you're jobless agiain Frankie. Doctors can make that call, try to find something part time to stay occupied don't give up bud.

BTW Jug your example is a good one but any employer in a trade like yours involving power tools per OSHA regs requires employees to take blood born pathogen training classes. Either at a trining center or if your employer is large enough in house taught by a safety officer rep from your company.

I used to work in a sheet metal shop and every one had to go to safety training which dealt with that since cuts and finger amputations were a job hazard.

We also learned that in the US that informtion is protected and you do not have to volunteer it nor can it be used against you, you must assume that it is a risk and follow approprite safety protocols before offering aid.

As a shift lead I had to attend to on the job injuries and fill out paperwork as well as transporting individulas to treatmet if necessary.

I never assisted anyone without first gloving up, eyes were already protected because we had to wear safety glasses in the plant. And then always thourghly scrubbed afterwards.

A friend of mine cut 2 finger tips off in a press brake and I had to keep a guy from trying to help, it may not seem right but your first priority of protection is yourself.

[frankieG]

there is no use of having a rescuer becoming a patient and thus doubling the trouble.   taking the right safety precautions for oneself is absolutely necessary as far as i am concerned.  i would rather wait even if it meant more harm or possibly death, than to have a first aider become a casualty.

[yamahonkawazuki]

well said all, and frankie. youll get through it god willing. a minor hiccup, but it will work out